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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Europe can police their own back yard. If they aren't capable, we've wasted untold trillions and years creating a Euroweenie welfare state.

No, and no.

And, it's not even all about Russia (tho' the lean toward Russia increases if one considers Moscow part of Europe.) We KNOW from history what happens with Europe when well armed and left to its own devices. Post WW2 you can add in nukes, at any point had the US packed up and gone home. And if you don't recognize the divisions still in Europe, hidden to the ignorant by the thin veneer of the EU, and relative peace held together not just by trade, but by the glues of NATO and US influence, well... I can't help you. I don't know how to cure blindness.

Waste? Well, since the demise of the USSR, the Euro's haven't really contributed their full / designed share to NATO. But, their contribution is still helpful. And, together with a few other allies, the Western bloc is ~80% of the world's GDP. Europe's contribution there is larger than ours. Getting that block to move together is often difficult. Getting it to move together quickly can be VERY difficult. But, make no mistake, it is enormously economically beneficial (basically to all), and it is the most powerful human force on the planet.

When it comes to NATO, obviously some things need to be addressed. One is to address funding: The 2% of GDP requirement needs to be an absolute minimum requirement for Membership. So long as Russia is a threat, it likely needs to be 3%.

74 posted on 02/27/2023 1:25:43 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

—> We KNOW from history what happens with Europe when well armed and left to its own devices. Post WW2 you can add in nukes, at any point had the US packed up and gone home. And if you don’t recognize the divisions still in Europe, hidden to the ignorant by the thin veneer of the EU, and relative peace held together not just by trade, but by the glues of NATO and US influence, well... I can’t help you. I don’t know how to cure blindness.

Yes we know the failure of Europe to resolve longstanding/sectarian issues.
The EU, not a democratic institution, has become a tool of the WEF to enslave the continent. It is corrupt.
The Un was envisioned as a forum to resolve these issues and prevent war. It is corrupt.
Through paying for the EU defense in perpetuity, we are enabling the enslavement of the citizens.
We have fostered this EU welfare state on the backs of American dollars and American lives.
If they cannot handle regional issues by now, they are simply perpetual wards of our state.


76 posted on 02/27/2023 5:22:27 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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