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To: BroJoeK

Just because you stood guard in Germany for three years does not give you moral superiority over me pal.

I could point out my father fought on D-Day as a forward observer with multiple Bronze Stars and Purple Hearts to his name(which isn’t quite the same as standing guard) and I know for a fact he would be disgusted with your neocon fear mongering. How is that for your supposed moral superiority pal.

I also got news for you, Ukraine, is not the same as WWII. I believe Trump when he says it can be stopped in 24hrs if he becomes President again and that it never would have happened if the 2020 election was not stolen.

It would all probably end once all the biological weapon labs, human trafficking, neo-nazis, religious persecutions, rampant deepstate corruption and big time money laundering is cleaned out. Ukraine is not by any measure a morality superior country — in fact it’s probably one of the worst violators of morality.

Your hatred for Putin is obviously irrationally over the top in typical warmongering neocon fashion. For all the word salads you put up — you look like a deepstate paid shill and a joke.

In case you haven’t noticed because you’re so blinded by old Cold War hatred for all thing Russian, the petrodollar deepstate wants war because they need to distract people from their being exposed for their crimes against humanity. Hence, the blackmail files Z probably has due to Ukraine being such a corrupt moral wasteland, that he uses it as leverage to the tune of 100s of Billions of petrodollars.

“ War is when the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.” Ben Franklin.

It looks like you’re on the wrong side of history shilling for the old Cold War petrodollar deepstate government. Got news for you pal, more and more people everyday are figuring who the real deepstate bad guys are and deciding for themselves.

It’s time for you to let go of your neocon old Cold War mentality as it is currently supporting the flourishing deepstate government evil that is pushing everyone to a war the major majority people of the world do not want.

Evil flourishes when not enough people pay attention to what is really going on and do some real critical thinking and call out your fake and exaggerated fear mongering neocon garbage for what it is. Thus, I am now peacefully doing my duty trying to prevent the deepstate evil from flourishing even more by calling your propaganda garbage out.

Your posts are just a bunch of government neocon word salad garbage calling those who disagree with you unAmerican Putin fans.

I pray for your conversion on these matters. FYI, being convert does not necessarily make you an unAmerican Putin fanboy. Hopefully, you are capable of making that distinction to truly see the real evil within the current deepstate petrodollar system trying desperately to hang on to world controlling power.

God Bless!


125 posted on 02/25/2023 6:37:34 PM PST by FranklinsTower
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To: FranklinsTower
FranklinsTower: "Just because you stood guard in Germany for three years does not give you moral superiority over me pal."

No, but it gives me 100% authority to call you a liar when you throw the word "neocon" at me, FRiend.

FranklinsTower: "I could point out my father fought on D-Day as a forward observer with multiple Bronze Stars and Purple Hearts to his name(which isn’t quite the same as standing guard) and I know for a fact he would be disgusted with your neocon fear mongering.
How is that for your supposed moral superiority pal."

Now you're just lying about your father because -- like everyone of his generation -- he learned deeply the lessons of the 1930s and was determined never to repeat them.
Then there were no "neocons" in 1945, or 1955, or even 1965.
All of the Greatest Generation well understood that weakness invites aggression from bad people, and they knew we had to stand strong against it.
It didn't matter if your dad was Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal, they ALL knew that, it wasn't even debatable.

But now you want to exhume your DAD (!!) from his grave and and force him to start babbling nonsense about "neocons"??
I don't think he'd like that.

FranklinsTower: "I also got news for you, Ukraine, is not the same as WWII.
I believe Trump when he says it can be stopped in 24hrs if he becomes President again and that it never would have happened if the 2020 election was not stolen."

Putin's behavior in Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine matches up pretty well with Hitler's in the Rhineland, Austria and Czechoslovakia, and our behavior matches well with that of France and Britain at the time.

And Trump's promise is the same one Dwight Eisenhower made about Korea in 1952 to get elected president.
And Eisenhower did stop the fighting in Korea (more or less) but he never actually ended the war which technically is still ongoing today.

Will Pres. Trump do better in Ukraine than Eisenhower did in Korea? Maybe, but a lot will still depend on exactly where are the front lines at the time of negotiations.
And that's what is being decided now.

FranklinsTower: "It would all probably end once all the biological weapon labs, human trafficking, neo-nazis, religious persecutions, rampant deepstate corruption and big time money laundering is cleaned out.
Ukraine is not by any measure a morality superior country — in fact it’s probably one of the worst violators of morality."

Much of that is pure fantasy on your part, but the real bottom line is this: whatever their failings, Ukrainians are vastly "morally superior" to Vlad the Invader's Russia.
In a ranking of countries by least to most corruption, Russia is near the bottom, western democracies are near the top and Ukraine is around the middle.

FranklinsTower: "Your hatred for Putin is obviously irrationally over the top in typical warmongering neocon fashion.
For all the word salads you put up — you look like a deepstate paid shill and a joke."

Says our paid Russian propagandist.
As for Putin, you're wrong, I feel no more hatred for Putin than I would for ANY megalomaniacal invader of foreign countries and murderer of tens of thousands of civilians.
And I don't hate Putin nearly as much as, for examples, Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Mao Zedong.
Putin is not in their league of evil doers. Not yet.

FranklinsTower: "In case you haven’t noticed because you’re so blinded by old Cold War hatred for all thing Russian, the petrodollar deepstate wants war because they need to distract people from their being exposed for their crimes against humanity.
Hence, the blackmail files Z probably has due to Ukraine being such a corrupt moral wasteland, that he uses it as leverage to the tune of 100s of Billions of petrodollars."

Yeah, all that is total BS -- it's fever swamp fantasies projected into psychobabble narrative desperately searching for any scrap of evidence you can claim supports it.
Your words only tell us that you have no serious grip on objective reality.

FranklinsTower: "It looks like you’re on the wrong side of history shilling for the old Cold War petrodollar deepstate government.
Got news for you pal, more and more people everyday are figuring who the real deepstate bad guys are and deciding for themselves."

When good people stand strong, aggressors stay home.
When good people look weak, aggressors come out and take over.
Always was, always will be and Ukraine invaded by Vlad the Invader is proof positive that human nature hasn't changed.

FranklinsTower: "It’s time for you to let go of your neocon old Cold War mentality as it is currently supporting the flourishing deepstate government evil that is pushing everyone to a war the major majority people of the world do not want."

And the same kinds of things were said in the 1930s and 1940 to keep the US out of Europe's affairs.
And the longer we waited, the bigger the war became.
You are the isolationists or Neville Chamberlains of our age, and remember please, those people were right for many years, until suddenly, almost too late, they were disastrously wrong.

FranklinsTower: "Evil flourishes when not enough people pay attention to what is really going on and do some real critical thinking and call out your fake and exaggerated fear mongering neocon garbage for what it is.
Thus, I am now peacefully doing my duty trying to prevent the deepstate evil from flourishing even more by calling your propaganda garbage out."

Relating the facts of history and of human nature is not "fear mongering" or "propaganda garbage", but ignoring those is deeply delusional, potentially suicidal.

FranklinsTower: "Your posts are just a bunch of government neocon word salad garbage calling those who disagree with you unAmerican Putin fans."

It is amazing to me how consistently anti-American are those here who defend and excuse Vlad the Invader's actions in Ukraine.
And you accuse me of being paid?

FranklinsTower: "I pray for your conversion on these matters.
FYI, being convert does not necessarily make you an unAmerican Putin fanboy.
Hopefully, you are capable of making that distinction to truly see the real evil within the current deepstate petrodollar system trying desperately to hang on to world controlling power."

Your words here are pure babbling nonsense, your deep self-loathing on display projected onto national and global issues. Because you loathe yourself so much you wish to sacrifice Ukraine on a cross to naked Russian aggression.

I think you need help for that, but if they pay you to say this cr*p, nothing will help you, FRiend.

131 posted on 02/25/2023 11:06:36 PM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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