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US to QUADRUPLE military force on Taiwan as tensions sour between Washington and Beijing ..........
Daily Mail ^ | 2/23/2023 | Kieth Griffith

Posted on 02/23/2023 2:20:58 PM PST by caww

The moves come several weeks after an Air Force general predicted the US would be at war with China in 2025 and a day after the Secretary of the Navy raised the alarm that China's fleet was now larger than the US's. ....Service members from the Marines and the special forces have been sent to Taiwan in the past and the number has fluctuated over the years.

However, this uptick would mark the biggest increase of American troops on the ground in Taiwan in decades.

US forces are used to train Taiwanese military members, so they can defend themselves against China, which claims ownership of Taiwan.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; china; keithgriffith; russia; ukraine
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Already the Michigan National Guard is training Taiwanese troops at Camp Grayling in northern Michigan. The US forces sent to Taiwan will also be tasked with training Taiwanese military members


1 posted on 02/23/2023 2:20:58 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

I’m going to miss the carriers.


2 posted on 02/23/2023 2:21:52 PM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: Jim Noble

[I’m going to miss the carriers.]


So will the Chinese. And not for lack of trying. A former naval aviator explains:

[[Like the ’91 Gulf War Ukraine is going to be a system shock to the mass-formation style militaries of the world. Invasions are damn difficult and likely to fail, but people get the wrong impression because the USA does it so often and is never stopped by military means. So others think they can too, they don’t get that “They aren’t that guy” to quote a meme.

A third tier ANG pilot gets 3x the flight hours than an elite RVS pilot every year, ~240ish for a USAF driver and ~70 for RVS. Not to mention ~200 hifi simulator hours vs 0. The disparity is similar though not as bad when looking at the PLAAF. People get it twisted because our occupations often fail, but overlook that we dumpstered the 4th largest army in the world in 100 hours or conquered Afghanistan with less than 200 men on the ground. America’s a sick horse in many ways, but our conventional military power (which we pay dearly for) is terrifying. The threat of facing that power in an already fraught operation like amphibious assault into a heavily fortified island nation has to look much less attractive to the Chinese after the much more experienced Russian troops failed in the flat plains of neighboring Ukraine.

Many American officers WANT China to f*** up and make a move against Taiwan and give us a war justification against the PRC. It might be the only way to escape the slow economic strangulation the PRC is forcing on us, by brutalizing their industrial capacity with PGMs and rewinding the clock 50 years of our comparative economic strength.

Distant maritime intervention at Malacca would halt all sea going trade, crippling their economy. US 7th, 3rd, and eventually 5th fleet would deploy to Taiwan, using the island as a shield for the CVNs, forcing PLAAF aircraft to fly through the Taiwanese SAM net before they even get to try their luck against the lethal AEGIS system and carrier CAP. Meanwhile US fighters would be in friendly MEZ until only a minute or less before time-on-target. Every Chinese shipyard would be turned to scrap, then the airfields, then the pipelines, then systematically the heavy industry.

I think cooler heads in the Chinese Politburo haven’t drunk the coolaid and game war game out the situation in their mind, especially with the new data point of the Ukraine war, and realize it would be an unmitigated disaster for them.]


In other words, much of the defeatist rhetoric re China over Taiwan in the here and now can be summed up in verse: “Will you walk into my parlour?” said the Spider to the Fly”.


3 posted on 02/23/2023 2:25:26 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: caww

Biden deliberately walking us into WWIII. Ever notice that the world ignited once Biden got into office? I mean look around, in just the last two years we are starring down the barrel of war with Russia, via the current Ukraine proxy, and now China is sidling up close to Russia as an ally and looks to invade Taiwan after sending reconnaissance balloons all over North America.

And no one cares. There are no anti-war protests anywhere. No peace movements. Everyone is asleep and no one really cares.


4 posted on 02/23/2023 2:29:05 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: caww

The troops will be brought back home once China pays the big guy his 10%


5 posted on 02/23/2023 2:30:15 PM PST by imabadboy99
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To: caww

Human shields?


6 posted on 02/23/2023 2:30:51 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: All

If Trump we’re still President, Ukraine, and now Taiwan, would not be topics of discussion.


7 posted on 02/23/2023 2:31:02 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: caww

no excuse for anything to ever get close enough to land by air or shore...


8 posted on 02/23/2023 2:31:48 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Too bad they won't have ammo, equipment, or support...

It's all been sent to Ukraine.

9 posted on 02/23/2023 2:32:28 PM PST by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: caww

We are sending a few trainers for a specific purpose.

For decades we kept thousands of fighting troops in Taiwan, with fighter wings and the whole bag.


10 posted on 02/23/2023 2:32:30 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Jim Noble

I know what you mean. Stolen elections have cocquences.


11 posted on 02/23/2023 2:32:31 PM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: caww

I wonder if Taiwan would even put up much of a fight. Their country is about evenly divided politically over whether they should get closer to China. And they don’t want their country destroyed and their very lives put at great risk. The US ain’t coming to the rescue and they know it. The US will just use China’s Taiwan grab as an excuse to sanction and isolate China from the rest of the world. Arming Taiwan just makes China pay a higher price for doing it.


12 posted on 02/23/2023 2:34:33 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: caww

Does no one know how to fight a war? Why do we have to train everyone?


13 posted on 02/23/2023 2:34:37 PM PST by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: caww

Is that a Potemkin village?

The government is also thinking about ending the A-10 Thunderbolt II (Warthog) group at Selfridge, MI and then shut the base. Gov.Whitmer, of all people, is helping keep the base open with new fighters.

May still get shut down.

“The Michigan Air National Guard’s 127th Wing, the host unit at Selfridge, flies the A-10 fighter jet and the KC-135 refueling plane. The 127th Wing also supports more than 70 tenant units representing nearly all uniformed military services and the Department of Homeland Security, according to SANG officials.”


14 posted on 02/23/2023 2:34:58 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: caww

No, this actually makes sense.


15 posted on 02/23/2023 2:36:02 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (The Ukraine is dead, the head just doesn't know it yet.)
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To: Jim Noble

F U

I’m sick of disgusting anti American and pro communist Chinese comments.

You’re going to miss China after we sink its fleet and blow it back to the stone age.


16 posted on 02/23/2023 2:37:01 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: imabadboy99

Biden is along for the ride. He just takes the fall for failure.


17 posted on 02/23/2023 2:37:14 PM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Cobra64

If Trump we’re still President, Ukraine, and now Taiwan, would not be topics of discussion.


Why do you say that? What would Trump do to prevent Putin from thinking Ukraine is part of Russia and the CCP that Taiwan is part of their China? Be specific.


18 posted on 02/23/2023 2:37:49 PM PST by lodi90
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To: caww

Stellar idea! Let’s provoke another superpower.


19 posted on 02/23/2023 2:41:16 PM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: caww

So we are going from 50 to 150 troops there? The headline makes it sound like troops are pouring in. I think our embassy guard is more than 50 in some countries.


20 posted on 02/23/2023 2:41:41 PM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd )
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