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Mark Levin on DOJ's move to pierce Trump's attorney-client privilege: This is the unraveling of our liberties
foxnews ^ | 2/19/2023 | By Ashley Carnahan

Posted on 02/20/2023 11:56:27 AM PST by bitt

Justice Department prosecutors asked a federal judge to compel one of Trump's lawyers to testify

Fox News host Mark Levin tore into special counsel Jack Smith for going after former President Trump's right to attorney-client privilege.

Justice Department prosecutors on Tuesday asked a federal judge to compel one of Trump's lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran, to answer more questions before a grand jury regarding the former president's handling of classified documents. Prosecutors cited the crime-fraud exception as a way to circumvent the attorney-client privilege.

This exception, Levin said, is used if prosecutors believe a client is seeking advice from an attorney to assist with the furtherance of a crime or fraud.

"Then the communication is said not to be privileged. So the prosecution goes to a judge and says, 'look, I've got evidence here that basically this is a ruse, that, in fact, the client is using the attorney to perpetrate an ongoing crime and fraud,'" he explained on "Life Liberty & Levin."

Levin argued attorney-client privilege is a fundamental right protected under the Bill of Rights and crucial to a functioning government.

He called out Smith for trying to pierce it, saying he has a "wildly broad interpretation of obstruction."

"I don't have to read tea leaves. I see what he's doing, and he wants to make an obstruction case, but he wants to violate a principle that applies to all of us when it comes to justice and lawyers," he said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: attorneyclient; biden; billofrights; documents; doj; dueprocess; holdonnow; injusticedepartment; jacksmith; marklevin; merrickgarland; trump; trump2024; whatdoesqthink
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1 posted on 02/20/2023 11:56:27 AM PST by bitt
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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2 posted on 02/20/2023 11:56:36 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: bitt

https://youtu.be/BSaevvI4QqU


3 posted on 02/20/2023 11:59:58 AM PST by conservative98
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To: bitt
The attorney-client privilege lies with the client. Except for rare circumstances, the client controls whether the privilege is waived or not. The DOJ is attempting to destroy the attorney client relationship that is fundamental to our legal system.

It is equivalent to a priest being forced to disclose what was said to him at a confession.

4 posted on 02/20/2023 12:05:09 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: thegagline

Except that a priest is expected to accept martyrdom rather than break the seal.


5 posted on 02/20/2023 12:20:15 PM PST by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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To: bitt

Mark Levin is right on this...


6 posted on 02/20/2023 12:24:10 PM PST by GOPJ ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Gumballs: Immigrants by the numbers.)
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Rat World. Rat values


7 posted on 02/20/2023 12:26:55 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: bitt

Levin is right, but they don’t care, which is why Speaker McCarthy should Sign some Arrest and Detainment Warrants, as well as Subpoena’s for the Gangster Government Committee compelling Every Lawyer Biden and Family have ever had to come before the committee and give ALL Communications Records for the whole family, regardless of any stupid privilege claims.

Then Jail them when they refuse and Seize the records by force with a SWAT Team


8 posted on 02/20/2023 12:33:36 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: bitt
This is the unraveling of our liberties
No Mark, the unraveling of our liberties is election fraud.

The corporation and the owners you work for, and align yourself with at never-Trump Murdoch News are just as complicit, maybe more, than the low-lifes at DOJ for their/your complicity in the 2020 steal...by steal, I mean treason against the country.

The President's name or party isn't the issue. It's what YOU and your friends at Fox have done to this country.

Rot in hell!

9 posted on 02/20/2023 12:34:42 PM PST by lewislynn ( Trump accomplished more for America in one 4yr term than any President in your lifetime)
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To: bitt; Red Badger; fieldmarshaldj; Jane Long; LS; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jet Jaguar; radu; ...

FU Biden in Ukraine is part of this war of money laundering, child sex trafficking; bioweapons, corruption, treason including many in the FU Biden Admin, alphabet agencies, & politicians Coast to Coast.

Gen. Flynn’s Chilling Florida Address: We’re Facing the Final Power Grab

https://www.westernjournal.com/gen-flynns-chilling-florida-address-facing-final-power-grab-2/

“... We are in the midst of a war; this is not politics as usual. ...

...What I want to do is expand on the meaning of the word “evil.”


10 posted on 02/20/2023 12:39:29 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: bitt

DOJ = Department Of Jerks

Not many departments in D.C. that aren’t


11 posted on 02/20/2023 12:47:48 PM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: bitt

The politicians and lawyers pushing for this should be summarily executed.


12 posted on 02/20/2023 1:09:05 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: bitt

This happened years ago but Mark was too busy hocking crappy books and shilling for Kevin McCarthy to have noticed it.


13 posted on 02/20/2023 1:18:56 PM PST by GulliverSwift
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To: Vaduz; MtnClimber

14 posted on 02/20/2023 1:59:08 PM PST by 4Liberty (The Media has become one big ad for the sino-industrial complex.)
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To: eyeamok; All

What you say is on point, but ignores lack of enforcement execution.

McCarthy can’t arrest anyone. All criminal referrals from Congress are sent over to DOJ.

Congress can impeach and remove, but only if both chambers work to those ends.

Levin is revealing Jack Smith’s strategy, a general obstruction of justice charge. Smith is known for stretching legal bounds and having his results reversed unanimously. But during the interim, he leaves his targets heavily damaged. His aim is likely not to jail Trump, but to take him out of the race, denying his return to power.

The Federal Government has been weaponized against Trump. DOJ also breathed heavily on the Mazars Firm, President Trump’s accountants, forcing them to withdraw services and stating their accounting entries might not be reliable.

We’ve never seen anything like it.

Their plan is to remove Trump completely, then round up all dissenters which are all MAGA followers.

This is the Marxist Playbook.


15 posted on 02/20/2023 2:22:07 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

“U.S. CODE
TITLE 2—THE CONGRESS
CHAPTER 6—CONGRESSIONAL AND COMMITTEE PROCEDURE; INVESTIGATIONS
Sec. 193. Privilege of witnesses
No witness is privileged to refuse to testify to any fact, or to produce any paper, respecting which he shall be examined by either House of Congress, or by any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or by any committee of either House, upon the ground that his testimony to such fact or his production of such paper may tend to disgrace him or otherwise render him infamous.”

Simply look up Hinds Precedents, especially chapters 53 and 51, and Cannon’s Precedents, especially chapters 184-185. You’ll find numerous detailed cases of Congress asserting its power, arresting people, holding them until they agreed to answer questions, and then releasing them. Some of these people did not refuse to appear, but simply failed to satisfactorily answer questions.

Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)

If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.

Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.

Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.

Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.

Some references

[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html

[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html

[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit

[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html

[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf

[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/

In 1857, a New York Times reporter refused to say which members of Congress had asked him to get them bribes (protecting his “sources” just as various Judith Millers today protect the people who feed them proven lies that costs thousands of lives), so Congress locked him up until he answered and then banned him from Congress.

In 1924 an oil executive appeared but refused to answer certain questions, so the Senate held — literally held — him in contempt. Senator Thomas Walsh of Montana argued that this question of contempt was of the gravest importance, and that it involved “the very life of the effective existence of the House of Representatives of the United States and of the Senate of the United States.” The matter was taken to court, and the witness fined and imprisoned.


16 posted on 02/20/2023 6:24:51 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: bitt

Is this the same Mark Liven that remained silent on the Obama birth certificate issue? Asking for a friend.


17 posted on 02/21/2023 3:33:24 AM PST by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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To: eyeamok; All

That statute is contextual to appearance upon subpoena.

The Sergeant-at-Arms can arrest those in areas of Capitol buildings. The FBI or US Marshals may be used nationwide, but they are under DOJ. FBI has been corrupted in the last 10+ years:

Video - 2 minutes
https://newtube.app/user/Hostage/FokM5dV

Although the US Marshals Service is housed as a bureau under the DOJ, they are supposed to have a degree of independence. They might come through on an oder from Congress to arrest someone. That could be interesting.

In general, Biden’s DOJ is not going to cooperate with Speaker McCarthy or they will slow walk any requests until the purpose is lost.

That leaves only the Sergeant-at-Arms to enforce Congressional orders inside areas of Capitol buildings.

If lawyers appear on behalf of their clients, they may not violate the rights of their client, for example their Fifth Amendment rights. That is related to what Levin is pointing out.

An attorney stands in place of their client. For all intents and purposes, an attorney is their client. However, they may not allow crimes, if they exist, of their clients to continue while representing them.

The statute on privilege of witnesses applies only to areas which might disgrace or make infamous the witness called to testify, basically defamation is not an excuse.

All an attorney has to do is appear and refuse to answer based on rights under the Constitution, asserting no defamation is at issue. In this context, the statute you quoted is neutered unless it is abused.

In matters of executive privilege, Steve Bannon and Dr. Peter Navarro were arrested wrongly by Biden’s corrupt FBI for failing to testify concerning January 6th. They had nothing to hide, no defamation to be concerned about. They simply called out it was wrong to compel testimony under executive privilege. This again is part of what Levin is pointing out.

Levin is pointing out DOJ is twisting any refusal to testify or produce subpoenaed material into a case of obstruction of justice. The term ‘refusal’ is contextual to rights under the Constitution.

Just as the power of the DOJ to arrest is checked (in legal context) under the Constitution, so is Speaker McCarthy’s power to arrest.

The problem is Biden. His illegal administration is not following the intent of law. Instead, his regime twists meanings of statutes to suit their own purpose. Nor will Biden be removed upon impeachment, as there are not enough votes in the Senate.

Repeating, Levin is pointing out Special Prosecutor Jack Smith is aiming for charging Trump with obstruction of justice, not because it is a valid charge, but because it might take Trump out of the race.

Here’s an absurd neighborhood example:

1. A bad cop wants to arrest a person “Target” for personal or political reasons, but they can’t find a good reason to arrest, so they concoct an absurdity.

2. The Target is walking on a street and steps in a mud puddle. Upon stepping onto a sidewalk, the Target leaves mud from its boots on the sidewalk.

3. The bad cop arrests the Target for defacing public property and intentionally creating a danger to public transportation.

4. The Target is ostracized by friends, neighbors, communities, and is barred from participating in clubs where personal honor is prerequisite.

5. The Target spends a year clearing the absurd charges.

The above is absurd “lawfare.”


18 posted on 02/21/2023 4:38:02 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

This is the primary reason for opposing a new bid for the Republican nomination

For reasons I’ll never understand, Trump did not kill off his enemies carrying out the coup. Their effort continues and is intensified. A new term will be the same war that Trump will not fight much less win.

There is no question that he was a great President. There is no question that the MAGA theme and effort was transformational.

They hate him and will never allow him to prevail. Absent civil war, the effort is doomed


19 posted on 02/21/2023 4:53:36 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: bert; All

I side with your sentiment to a large extent, but watching Trump last night live at Club 47 President’s Day Special, Trump was loaded for bear. He won’t be the gracious Trump of his 1st term.

Here’s what I’ll impart to you for increased understanding, but first let me compliment you on realizing we’ll probably end up in Civil War because these is a new form of Marxists we’re dealing with, a veritable paramilitary brownshirt group calling themselves ANTIFA. And yes, they truly are organized as paramilitaries. I had firsthand experience, minding my own business in Seattle, they attacked me and others around me without provocation. Needless to say, next time I’ll shoot if necessary.

What I can impart is that in January 2017, Trump walked into an Obama enemy camp. After 8 years, Obama minions installed tens of thousands of Marxist oriented federal employees into the upper echelon of a 2-million executive branch workforce.

And Trump, he couldn’t by law fire them!

IT IS EASIER TO BEAT CANCER THAN IT IS TO FIRE A TENURED FEDERAL EMPLOYEE.

I will therefore ask you to temper your criticism of Trump with regard to the people around him, he didn’t have much choice, if any. Cabinet appointees needed approval of McConnell’s Senate. However, the WH appointees were all up to Trump and his choices were superb; Drs. Atlas and Alexander, Director Kash Patel, Dr. Peter Navarro, so many, many more.

Trump has stated a campaign issue for his 2nd term is to change the law regarding the termination of federal employees. For example, he wanted to fire Fauci but couldn’t. He could only fire his personal WH picks. I hope this bit of insight helps you to trust Trump a little more. Vast part of the personnel problem truly wasn’t his fault.

Not to besmirch our FR members who were/are federal employees, my own federal government experience decades ago was one with an impression I was working with the best and brightest. It was an experience I cherish. But I was called back a few years ago, and I was aghast at the crass incompetence of the senior level directors and their deputies and assistants. Just weeks ago I was called back as a highly paid contractor, and I smiled, thought about it and ..... walked away.

In short, the Obama years exposed and expanded America’s enemy within ..... the Federal Government Supervisory faction aka the Administrative State aka the Deep State when combined with nefarious government contractors and private surrogates.

And Trump walked right into it with one hand tied behind his back.

When we see the whole picture, we appreciate the sacrifice of Donald Trump even more.


20 posted on 02/21/2023 7:13:28 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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