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Europe confirms Putin's victory in Ukraine? 'War will be over unless...' (Words of EU foreign affairs chief Joseph Borrell
Hindustan Times ^ | 2/19/2023 | Staff

Posted on 02/19/2023 6:48:50 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...

Russia's mounting offensive in eastern Ukraine has left the West in panic.

EU foreign affairs chief Joseph Borrell warned member nations that the war in Ukraine will be over unless the bloc finds a way to speed up provision of ammunition to Ukraine within weeks. The EU defence minister will hold a special meeting next month to discuss further military aid to Ukraine from their existing stocks.

Borrell said "much more has to be done much quicker'.

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(Excerpt) Read more at youtu.be ...


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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Well put, and excellent information provided for those interested.

It’s sad when it takes Hindustan Times and other non-western media outlets to lead and push this information to the forefront, with MSM outlets following instead of leading:

The Guardian
2/19/2023

Ukraine war ‘over’ unless EU boosts military support, says top diplomat

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/19/ukraine-war-over-unless-eu-boosts-military-support-says-top-diplomat


81 posted on 02/20/2023 9:14:57 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...
I suspect that this Free Republic has become for some just another un-social and certainly uncivil “social media” in which snipes and whines and insults are used as the sport of the day, any day and every day. Certainly as regards the Ukraine/Russia war, the outcome will be known when the outcome is known. All the "oracle at Delphi" stuff is at best fluff.

What concerns me is that the US' stance is helping to drive a competitor to the SWIFT system, competitors to currency options for trade and potential withering of the Bretton Woods petrodollar, and the continuously rising debt of the once "wealthiest nation in the world."

Politics was never a substitute for statesmanship, rational economics or plain commonsense. But politics is being served up non-stop from the media as from the politicians worldwide, as if consequences are never going to arise.

Best regards.

82 posted on 02/20/2023 9:31:15 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: rxsid
The aid coming from US taxpayers needs to come to a screeching halt. Furthermore, a thorough independent audit of where they taxpayer money went needs to be accounted for.

I love your graph but it is missing the color that represents kickbacks to lefties in all the countries listed. That is what this is largely about and represents a large percentage in this corrupt money laundering scheme that has virtually no accountability.

83 posted on 02/20/2023 9:53:46 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: BobL
and that assumes the Drag Queen pushers in the West are able to stay on course, and spend the huge money needed to build up a military infrastructure, virtually from scratch.

Those high-heeled Prada jump stilettos and the Prada assault handbags don't come cheap...

84 posted on 02/20/2023 10:58:58 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Salohcin; BobL

“Strong” words, Nick.


85 posted on 02/20/2023 11:00:52 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BobL; Cronos
Tanks are USELESS without ammo, and that is what all the Western leaders are complaining about.

They can get some of them snakes and sparklers for the tanks.


86 posted on 02/20/2023 11:12:07 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Snakes and sparklers are what you Ruskies have left for your 1960s tanks (anything more modern is blown up)


87 posted on 02/20/2023 11:20:55 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Apparently, the entire posted article went right over your head, and you’re continuing to quack your neoconned Talking Points like a Flip Wilson doll.


88 posted on 02/20/2023 11:34:23 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BobL

Man, with these neoconned bots, Denali ain’t just a dyslexic mountain in Alaska...


89 posted on 02/20/2023 11:37:37 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BobL

Production lines for advanced precision weapons are expensive. They take years and $ to get set up. It’s not like Europe has been pulling its own weight to begin with. So yes it will anywhere between 2-8 years to replace what we gave Ukes.


90 posted on 02/20/2023 11:56:20 AM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: canuck_conservative; JonPreston; fireman15
send me the airfare

No airfare is needed. Anyone in Western Europe, Cananda, or the United States who would like to volunteer to defend Ukraine merely needs to present themselves at any Ukrainian embassy or consulate. Providing your own kit is preferred, but not required. Rudimentary training and transportation to the front will be provided. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy appreciates your heroic sacrifice, and your posts here will of course be dearly missed.

91 posted on 02/20/2023 12:20:20 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: kiryandil

apparently you didn’t even read the article. It’s a link to a youtube video with opinions.

Perhaps you don’t realize that the West has enough ammunitions to blow your Putinist military mile high


92 posted on 02/20/2023 12:20:38 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos
the West has enough ammunitions

Who even writes stuff like this?

I like your map posts - but your opinions are garbage.

93 posted on 02/20/2023 2:12:07 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: wgmalabama

“So yes it will anywhere between 2-8 years to replace what we gave Ukes.”

Likely towards the high end, considering that what we have to deal with:
1. Acquiring the raw materials from countries that either hate us, or are not too hot on us.
2. Building permits and making factories - for example, it’s difficult to re-convert a shopping center that had been an aerospace plant...back to being an aerospace plant.
3. Training a bunch of Video Game Junkies to understand which end of a screwdriver to hold.
4. Speaking of junkies, either getting rid of drug testing at these factories, or trying to find several thousand people who can actually pass a drug test.
5. Dealing with a workforce that is a victim of our HORRIFIC ‘educational system’.

The bottom line is that the problems are far worse than simply creating and starting up production lines - the problem is that we are NOT NEARLY the same country we were even 30 years ago.


94 posted on 02/20/2023 3:40:40 PM PST by BobL
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To: Cronos

“The Western militaries have enough tanks, military vehicles and ammunition. They are just complaining that they don’t have enough for a 5 year war”

Link please - when did they say “next summer”, as they stated when they’ll run out, become 5 years?


95 posted on 02/20/2023 3:42:28 PM PST by BobL
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To: kiryandil

“Denial is the most predictable of human responses.”


96 posted on 02/20/2023 5:44:51 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe
I was tempted to say "No, it's not!"...      
97 posted on 02/20/2023 5:46:30 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BobL

You understand it all well. The political grift takes years also.


98 posted on 02/20/2023 6:41:20 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: canuck_conservative; jacknhoo
obviously you didn’t type all that just now

Of course jacknhoo didn't type it out. It was cut and pasted from the Wikipedia article -- which jacknhoo cited and linked to right in the post.

By the way, in jacknhoo's post, you'll see a lot of places where there's a number in square brackets. Those are footnotes. Click through to the Wikipedia article, and every footnote gives you the source that some Wikipedia editor thinks supports the statement in the text. You can check out those links -- there are hundreds of them -- and decide whether you agree.
99 posted on 02/20/2023 9:43:46 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: BobL

Link please for your false allegations


100 posted on 02/21/2023 1:47:55 AM PST by Cronos
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