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No survivors after Tennessee National Guard Black Hawk crashes on Alabama highway
NY Post ^ | 02/16/2023 | Katherine Donlevy

Posted on 02/16/2023 4:30:14 AM PST by cll

There are no survivors after a military helicopter carrying two people on a routine training mission crashed onto an Alabama highway Wednesday, officials said.

The Black Hawk aircraft crashed around 3 p.m. near Highway 53 and Burwell Road in Harvest, about 10 miles northeast of Huntsville, the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency said.

The helicopter caught fire upon impact, and both passengers died, military officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: aviation; blackhawk; nationalguard; sikorsky; tennessee
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It just fell out of the sky. Catastrophic component failure or IMC loss of control?

Until Valhalla, brothers.

1 posted on 02/16/2023 4:30:14 AM PST by cll
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To: cll

Prayers to all concerned.


2 posted on 02/16/2023 4:31:49 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says it.)
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To: cll

Woke maintenance?


3 posted on 02/16/2023 4:37:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Once you get people to believe that a plural pronoun is singular, they'll believe anything - nicollo)
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To: cll

went down like a stone... no auto rotate, no nuthin


4 posted on 02/16/2023 4:38:26 AM PST by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: cll

Poor souls. My friend flew hueys and refused to fly the blackhawks, everyone called them lawn darts.


5 posted on 02/16/2023 4:51:48 AM PST by New Perspective (As Leonard Cohen said once in an interview, “You won’t like what comes after America”)
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Black Hawks are fine machines. When everything works.


6 posted on 02/16/2023 5:21:17 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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I passed through there a couple days ago while visiting a friend who used to fly copters and now lives near there. We were talking about helicopters and how he did a lot of high elevation flights in afghanistan and how scary they were compared to normal.


7 posted on 02/16/2023 5:32:13 AM PST by cyclotic
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To: cll

Was the crew from Fort Rucker:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Rucker

RIP


8 posted on 02/16/2023 5:43:01 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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They were from the TN National Guard.


9 posted on 02/16/2023 5:44:34 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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Yea, I saw that. I meant to say were they operating out of Rucker. Crews from all units used to go there for training.


10 posted on 02/16/2023 5:48:15 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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It’s possible although the TN Army Aviation Support Facility is closer to Huntsville than is Rucker. Probably from the 230th Cav. I am checking.


11 posted on 02/16/2023 6:06:39 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: cll

Nothing routine about catastrophic mechanical failure or crashing a Blackhawk and dying.


12 posted on 02/16/2023 6:07:18 AM PST by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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Terrible for the people on board.

A friend of mine didn’t have a father because he died in a helicopter crash in Vietnam.

Another guy I knew died in an older Soviet-era helicopter.

It seems like those things are inherently dangerous.


13 posted on 02/16/2023 6:08:06 AM PST by packagingguy
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I've always been uneasy around helicopters. I flew in them when I was in the Marines and did not like the experience at all. There is something very unnatural about just hovering in the air at high altitude or going straight up and down like an elevator with no cables.

I much prefer the linear flight patterns of fixed wing aircraft. You take off from the ground at speed, fly in mostly a straight line, and gracefully land on a runway. If you understand how lift works, you feel safe on an airplane. It's logical how it stays up in the air.

Helicopters just don't make sense to me.

14 posted on 02/16/2023 6:13:00 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,895,899 Truth | 87,656,930 Twitter)
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A lot more fragil and less armor than a jet, Remember the Lowest bider makes them. And we know they don’t use the best of anything.


15 posted on 02/16/2023 6:15:33 AM PST by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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Remember the Lowest bider makes them. And we know they don’t use the best of anything.

"Now with 100% more chinese metal!"

16 posted on 02/16/2023 6:17:29 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: cll

No crew chief? That is an essential set of eyes to watch out for power lines and other dangerous problems.


17 posted on 02/16/2023 6:21:26 AM PST by momincombatboots (QEphesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: SamAdams76

If you know about the lift of a fixed wing, then you understand rotary wing. Instead of speeding down a runway to generate lift, you move the wings. Same principles involved, just operated differently.


18 posted on 02/16/2023 6:27:41 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: momincombatboots

I agree with you but when there are no passengers or other mission that requires them, Army crews frequently fly without a back seater.


19 posted on 02/16/2023 6:55:57 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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1. Eye-Witness accounts of any and all events are notoriously unreliable. Great for a news soundbite, worthless for a crash investigation. It’s a disservice to the public to even put them on the air.

2. Most people don’t have a clue how/why fixed-wing fly. Only a small fraction of those who do understand rotor-wing aircraft.

3. Fuel cells in military (combat) helicopters are self-sealing (against small arms fire) and designed to withstand impacts that are beyond human endurance. So if the fuel cell failed on impact, that speaks to an impact that probably was unsurvivable.

You would have to be pretty creative to dream up a scenario in which an aircraft in clear weather and under controlled flight would impact the ground with enough force to rupture the fuel bladder.


20 posted on 02/16/2023 6:59:22 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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