Posted on 02/14/2023 8:21:37 AM PST by SoConPubbie
The American political community is in a brief hiatus between the Democrats’ surprisingly good midterm results and the opening of the launch season for the presidential aspirants of both parties. There is a good deal of agitation among the Democrats that the president should not seek reelection and a number of recent developments, including the ludicrous imbroglio over improper retention of classified documents, indicate that the powers behind the scenes in that party are scheming to ease their leader out. In this context it was hard to know what to make of the lachrymose and almost incoherent retirement address of President Biden’s chief of staff, Ron Klain.
Among traditional Republicans, there is another tentative flirtation with hopefulness that the Trump phenomenon is passing. There have been a number of those since Senator McConnell promised to “drop him like a hot rock” in early 2016. He was steadily underestimated as he racked up primary victories in that year and had almost no support from Republican governors or members of the Congress in the 2016 campaign, which he was almost universally expected to lose. When he did lose in 2020 most of the traditional Republicans heaved a sigh of relief and imagined they could take all of Mr. Trump’s popularity and program and dispense with him.
The eminent Republican strategist Karl Rove, without whom President George W. Bush would never have been known outside Texas, holds to the traditional Never Trumper view that he is, as Mr. Rove’s piece in the Wall Street Journal was headlined on February 2, “The GOP’s Albatross.” He makes the points that Mr. Trump is “well-known, sure, but also overexposed. His shtick is old, his speeches boring. More and more Republicans want to turn the page: only 31 percent in the December 11 USA Today/Suffolk University poll wanted him to run again.” He acknowledges that Trump leads most of the polls for Republican support but points out that frontrunners at this stage have often flamed out in the past.
This is the updated version of what Mr. Rove and less distinguished anti-Trump Republicans have been saying since Trump came down the escalator at the Trump Tower in June, 2015. The “Albatross” is also the most popular member of the Republican Party and past front-runners who have faded have not included any ex-presidents since U.S. Grant, and the majority of Republicans believe, probably correctly, that Mr. Trump would be the president today if the voting and vote-counting rules had not been unconstitutionally changed in six or seven swing states, supposedly to accommodate voting in the pandemic, producing an avalanche of unverifiable mail-in ballots and raising concerns about potential ballot harvesting. The poll Mr. Rove cited has never produced a fair assessment of Mr. Trump’s support.
Mr. Trump has already been longer at the forefront of consideration for the nation’s highest office than anyone in the last century except for Presidents Franklin Roosevelt, Nixon, and Reagan. The supposition that he is finished is really the irrepressible wishful thinking of entrenched Trump-haters. It may be accurate, if Mr. Trump is less tactically astute than he has been in the last decade. His critics should remember that Mr. Trump invented and successfully executed a strategy for transforming celebrity and even notoriety into election to the presidency, and that he substantially repositioned the Republican Party directly on top of traditional Democratic political fiefdoms and attracted African- and Latin-American votes by the orthodox application of traditional Republican capitalist values: the tax incentivization of job-creating investment in economically disadvantaged areas. Those who have under-estimated him before should not imagine that he is incapable of adjusting to changed circumstances.
Most Americans have doubtless tired of wildly egocentric and bellicose speeches in which Mr. Trump insults almost all of his competitors. He is now President Trump and all the other credible Republican presidential hopefuls are ex-proteges of his, espousing his goals. All he really has to do is repeat his revised and updated campaign promises in reasonable terms, and speak less about himself and avoid gratuitous insults of his opponents. If he does that, he has a winning ticket: it is very unlikely that the Democrats can indict him now and it is a long-standing unwritten rule that former presidents are not indicted. Any indictment would be spurious and probably politically counter-productive.
On the hustings, there has been no presidential campaigner as formidable as Mr. Trump since Reagan. Though Mr. Rove and other opponents panned his candidacy announcement address, and it was too long, it was temperate, good-humored, and contained a comprehensive reform agenda, including congressional term-limits, a roll-back of the Green Terror, and the reestablishment of the border. If he sticks to this formula, all indications are that he will be renominated. The Democrats will have a difficult time facing the voters after the many fiascos of the present regime, whether Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump, or either of them, is renominated or not.
A man who set out to become a television star and designed a form of entertainment which he co-produced with a television network, and which then became a ratings phenomenon for 14 years, should not be assumed to be incapable of updating his shtick. All that is left of the Democrats’ monstrous demonization of Mr. Trump is a general distaste for him amongst many voters, but he could disarm a large number of those voters by simply speaking as he has these last two months — there have been no outrageous utterances on social media, no calls for poorly formulated constitutional changes — nothing the nervous anti-Trump media have been able to sink its teeth into.
Those who complacently want the retention of Mr. Trump’s policies while disposing of him should remember that that course of action is almost never successful. The British Conservatives tried Thatcherism without Thatcher and Britain is now back almost to the strike-ridden floundering from which Margaret Thatcher rescued it 44 years ago. France opted for Gaullism without de Gaulle, and they lost both: there is no longer a Gaullist Party in France and its place has been taken by the National Front which has tempered its more reactionary policies but not changed its leader; it is faux Gaullism without de Gaulle. Trumpism without Mr. Trump might work with Governor DeSantis, but it’s not clear that DeSantis can win the primaries against Mr. Trump. And as Senator Graham said, in endorsing Mr. Trump, many presidents have promised to stop illegal immigration and move the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and stand up to China, and make the NATO allies pay more, but only Mr. Trump did it all, and more.
And the Democrats are very vulnerable. They can’t seriously renominate Biden; they can’t expect the voters to forgive the debacle of the present term; they won’t get out from under the woke yoke, and instead of taking the repeal of Roe v. Wade as the opportunity it is to leave abortion to the states and go after moderate opinion on the issue, they are still prattling the nonsense about Mr. Trump and the Republicans trying to stifle (mis-named) reproductive rights; (they mean contra-productive rights), and the federal Republicans are relatively quiet on the issue. Classified documents have been a more spectacular failure at bloodless assassination than Trump-Russia collusion or the telephone call to President Zelensky. Trump-hate is staler than Mr. Trump and is gasping toward expiry.
Mr. DeSantis is 44; his time will come, without having a bruising, uphill battle with the incumbent Republican party leader. Willing Trump away will not make it happen. If Trump wants his old office back sufficiently to present himself more likeably, he will return.
Got GOP poll call yesterday-—
Told the lady IF TRUMP DOESN’T RUN-—WILL NEVER VOTE AGAIN.
The GOPe aka RINO’a are not delusional. They know full well what they are doing. It’s the voters that are easily duped.
They don’t want Trumpism without Trump. They want MAGA voters without MAGA.
Bingo.
Trump was elected because a substantial chunk of voters who voted Obama in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania switched over and voted Trump.
They didn’t do that because of cultism. They did that because this was the only candidate who said —
Build the Wall
Drain the Swamp
America First in ALL Things
Pro Life
Pro 2nd Amendment
THAT IS CONSERVATISM, especially the 2nd item which is all important. Drain the Swamp will stop Congress from “accomplishing” things. Accomplishing things is government intrusion into life.
Conservatism is NOT accomplishing things.
The other candidates have not stood up and embraced Conservatism as defined above and thus they will never get Trump voters.
Trump had his chance at reelection and blew it. DeSantis is our man.
A better reply would be “If the GOP does not give full support to Trump...”
There are currently only 32 millions register GOP members.
Trump had 81 million (actual) voters. (probably more, considering they shifted many from Trump to Biden)
HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE WOULD STAY WITH THE GOP PARTY IF TRUMP STARTED A NEW ONE?
Amen Brother!
They also want the Trump voter’s election money. My local GOP speaks of this often.
Put yourself in their shoes though. They killed the tea party and still got tea party voters. They killed the contract with America and still got voters who cared about that. They even undid most of what Reagan put in place and still won elections.
Every single time a grass roots conservative movement rises within the GOP the GOP destroys it, laughs at us all, and says 'what are you going to do, vote for the worse guy on the other side?' So of course that's the plan again. Hell, it was the plan in 2022, no agenda just 'we're not going to put out a conservative agenda, just vote for us because we're not them'
Somethings gotta change and it's time we recognize that we can't change them so something different has gotta change.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Quoth Joseph Goebbels.
Yes, you are right. Probably want that more than the votes actually. They can negotiate with the democrats how many votes will be counted for them and which races they’ll be allowed to win now that voting is a not-so-hidden joke. But money, they still love to have and spend that.
The funniest thing about this quote is that historians can find no record of Goebbels ever saying it.
He hasn't been able to bring himself to do it for seven years.
he didn’t blow it, it was stolen from him. instead of yelling bloody murder about it, the gop chose to look the other way
Irrelevant. If you don’t have Trump, you don’t have MAGA.
Trump or nothing. It’s not rocket science.
Economics is going to be the main issue in 2024 and Desantis has problems in this area.
He voted for TPP and wants to raise the Social Security retirement age to 70. This is not going to sit well with voters.
Quote: “And the Democrats are very vulnerable. They can’t seriously renominate Biden; they can’t expect the voters to forgive the debacle of the present term”
No they are not. I do not care who we nominate, that person will LOSE. Until such time as the GOP figures out how to out “ballot collect” the democrats, they will lose elections 10-20 days after Election Day. Biden could run, a dead cat could run or even a guy, say, who has been rendered a potato by a stroke can run and will win.
So far I have seen The GOP has no plan other than the McConnell’s of the world being hap hap happy to be robbed of elections so long as they can blame Trump.
As for Trumpism without Trump. You better hope that exists in some form. Trump cannot live forever but his movement sure as heck can. This is a long game. The years of erosion that the Left has been engaged in, the building of an unelected Swamp of bureaucrats who form a permanent government, and the drastic corruption will not be undone in one or two terms of a Presidency. It is a cultural birthright of the powers to be in DC and it will take years to cleanse that birth right from those who we supposedly elect to represent us.
Again, Mitch McConnell being the poster boy. He could care what you think or I think or if he has a caucus of ten Republicans in the Senate so long as his birthright of being in charge of that caucus is preserved and the gravy train keeps rolling his way.
Amen!!! Notice how the RINO’s skip over that and try to conflate their hatred of the man for what they really hate, namely, the movement. The movement and what it stands for does not stand for the flow of their gravy train, it stands as a drain plug.
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