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What Are Gepard Panzers? German Anti-Aircraft Tanks Sent to Ukraine (confirmed drone killers)
Newsweek ^ | Feb 12 | Ellie Cook

Posted on 02/12/2023 3:34:52 PM PST by dennisw

Germany has pledged more Gepard anti-aircraft tanks to Kyiv as Ukraine looks to fend off sustained drone attacks from Iranian-made unmanned aerial vehicles.

On February 8, Andriy Yermak, the head of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's office, said Ukraine had secured a new tranche of military aid from Germany, including more Gepards.

Berlin will send an additional two Gepard, or "Cheetah," anti-aircraft guns, along with 6,000 rounds of ammunition, Yermak wrote on Telegram.

In an updated tally as of Sunday, the German government has delivered 32 Gepard air defense systems to Ukraine, up from the previous figure of 30.

A further five Gepards are "in planning," according to the German government website.

The Gepard is an armored, all-weather self-propelled anti-aircraft gun developed back in the 1960s. Made by defense manufacturer Krauss Maffei-Wegmann (KMW), Gepards have been supplied to countries such as Germany, Belgium, Romania and the Netherlands.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elliecook; newsweak

1 posted on 02/12/2023 3:34:52 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

I wonder if the Russians are using ZSUs in the same role?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4_Shilka


2 posted on 02/12/2023 3:37:57 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dennisw
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz poses in front of an anti-aircraft gun tank Gepard during his visit a training facility of the arms-maker Krauss-Maffei Wegmann at the Putlos military training area on August 25, 2022 in Oldenburg in Holstein, Germany. Gepards have been used by Ukrainian forces to fend off Russian drone attacks.

 

This is very effective against Rus-Iranian drones. Check out the double barrels.

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3 posted on 02/12/2023 3:39:01 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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4 posted on 02/12/2023 3:39:50 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping, and see my question above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_Gepard


5 posted on 02/12/2023 3:42:15 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I will trade you one (WW2) Panzer Division for...


6 posted on 02/12/2023 3:44:08 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

For a split second I thought that Richard had come back to life. (Gephardt)


7 posted on 02/12/2023 3:51:40 PM PST by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with Nixon?)
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To: dennisw

Seven bogies? That’s a main battle tank chassis. Looks to be a hard working piece of gear. With twin gatling guns that 6,000 rounds won’t last long. Hope they’ve got refills figgered out?


8 posted on 02/12/2023 3:57:44 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: FreedomPoster

Presumably they could. It probably depends on what drones the Ukes are using and whether they show up on the ZSU radar.

The fairly large Iranian things do show up on the Gepard radar, making the Gepards useful for point defense against them. Of course, one needs to guess at what the Russians consider good targets for the drones in order to put the Gepards in the right place.

As far as I know the Ukes aren’t using anything like the Iranian drones, so the ZSU-23 would be operating in different circumstances. Probably close to the front line to defend against artillery spotters.


9 posted on 02/12/2023 3:58:46 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: dennisw

nice that Russia is giving us a chance to try out all this equipment under actual combat situations


10 posted on 02/12/2023 3:59:11 PM PST by canuck_conservative (12th month, no end in sight)
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To: OldWarBaby

I have seen a video of the Gepard drone intercepts. They don’t really have to shoot many rounds


11 posted on 02/12/2023 4:00:41 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: canuck_conservative

These are old pieces, no longer in service. It’s just fortuitous that they work well for this limited use.

Thats one reason ammo for them has proven to be a problem, as it was long out of production.


12 posted on 02/12/2023 4:03:23 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“Thats one reason ammo for them has proven to be a problem, as it was long out of production”

The Germans started up a new ammunition line (manufacturing) for these drone killers. So time will tell as always.


13 posted on 02/12/2023 4:11:13 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

“Check out the double barrels.”

35 mm guns


14 posted on 02/12/2023 4:18:30 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Close enough to Gov’t work to get you running around in circles. The Gepard twin guns will obliterate Iranian drones and very cheaply.

To every problem there is a solution.


15 posted on 02/12/2023 4:26:19 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

40 mph top speed helps getting on target.


16 posted on 02/12/2023 4:28:25 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: dennisw
From my aging memory about the 35mm:

The issue with countering drones or cruise missiles is getting the cost per kill down and the production and availability up. Aselsan from Turkey has their Sahin anti-drone, using a 40mm MK-19 and timed fused rounds. The US Vampire weapon system using four laser guided rockets which Ukraine should get this year.
17 posted on 02/12/2023 6:12:27 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: OldWarBaby

It’s not a Gatling Gun but twin, very rapid firing auto cannon. It shoots about a 1 second or so burst at a time.

Fully self contained system with radars and fire control computer.


18 posted on 02/12/2023 6:19:28 PM PST by Hootowl99
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To: Widget Jr

The bigger problem with the Iranian drones is detecting them and targeting in the dark. The Gepard radar seems to work well for that.


19 posted on 02/12/2023 6:48:55 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: dennisw

6,000 rounds? Is that all?


20 posted on 02/12/2023 7:07:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Blacks have placed stronger chains on themselves than the slave masters of old ever forged.)
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