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L.A. City Council Votes Unanimously to Replace Natural Gas with Unproven Hydrogen Power
Breitbart ^ | 02-09-2023 | JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 02/10/2023 6:00:17 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The Los Angeles City Council voted unanimously on Wednesday to convert a natural gas power plant to a new hydrogen system that critics say may not provide enough power and could cause more environmental damage.

The proposal is part of a “Green New Deal” adopted by former mayor Eric Garcetti to shutter three natural gas plants in favor of “renewable” energy — over objections that solar and wind power would not be sufficient, and that the move would cost thousands of union jobs.

Garcetti stuck with his plan even after the state suffered electricity shortages in 2020 and after Democrats lost a local special election in which the plan was a key issue.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: council; hydrogen; losangeles; naturalgas
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To: ChicagoConservative27

LOL! Morons...


21 posted on 02/10/2023 6:55:46 AM PST by Democrat = party of treason
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To: OHPatriot

YOU CANNOT FOOL MOTHER NATURE


22 posted on 02/10/2023 7:15:59 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Coming soon:

OH, THE HUMANITY!!!


23 posted on 02/10/2023 7:25:02 AM PST by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Does any actual every day America First Patriot care what happens in LA or Chicago or New York or Boston?


24 posted on 02/10/2023 7:26:38 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And where are they going to get the hydrogen?


25 posted on 02/10/2023 7:38:51 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“The Los Angeles City Council voted unanimously on Wednesday to convert a natural gas power plant to a new hydrogen system that critics say may not provide enough power and could cause more environmental damage. “

idiots ... where do they think hydrogen comes from ... either by cracking natural gas, or burning NG to make electricity to crack H2O via hydrolysis ... thus, massive net loss of energy and massive net gain of CO2 ...


26 posted on 02/10/2023 7:40:27 AM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Isn’t the by product of using hydrogen fuel water vapor? Water vapor is the NUMBER 1 greenhouse gas!


27 posted on 02/10/2023 7:42:47 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This will end in a big boom!


28 posted on 02/10/2023 7:49:15 AM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: butlerweave

What did socialists use for light before candles?

Electricity.


29 posted on 02/10/2023 7:57:50 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ChicagoConservative27

You can’t fix stupid, it has to be eliminated


30 posted on 02/10/2023 7:58:35 AM PST by drypowder
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Green New Deal = Global Power Mask


31 posted on 02/10/2023 7:59:50 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Your comment reminds me so much of Ayn Rand’s, Anthem.


32 posted on 02/10/2023 8:04:53 AM PST by SantosLHalper (Eat some bacon.No, I got no idea if it'll make you feel better, I just made too much bacon.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What they really need is Dihydrogen Oxide. That stuff is unobtainium in CA.
Rumor has it you can buy it in Tijuana!


33 posted on 02/10/2023 8:21:28 AM PST by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: SantosLHalper

Ayn Rand had these “experts” nailed—they are witch doctors.


34 posted on 02/10/2023 8:22:23 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

More people who don’t understand basic chemistry.

Yeah, Hydrogen, as an energy source puts just about every alternative to shame from comparison of fuel mass (i.e., weight) to energy produced. A pound of hydrogen will produce =much= more energy than a pound of gasoline. Hydrogen is also quite plentiful (see the Pacific Ocean). The issue is that hydrogen binds tightly to almost any element with open valences. Therefore, you have to expend energy to get H2.Then you have to store the resultant product as a gas, liquid or something you can use a catalyst or other reducing agent with to liberate the H2.

Bottom line, Unless you are using solar to crack water directly, in place, it’s gonna cost more than it is worth from a total energ perspective.


35 posted on 02/11/2023 12:16:19 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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