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IRS looks to crack down on tips earned by waiters and waitresses: So much for going after the rich
Hotair ^ | 02/08/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 02/08/2023 8:43:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/08/2023 8:43:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Jeez, and I thought 87,000 rich people were getting their own personal IRS agent. /s


2 posted on 02/08/2023 8:46:26 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, no kidding. That’s why they want 87k new IRS agents.


3 posted on 02/08/2023 8:47:23 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: SeekAndFind

Zelensky needs more money.


4 posted on 02/08/2023 8:48:47 PM PST by Allegra
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To: SeekAndFind

“IRS looks to crack down on tips earned by waiters and waitresses: So much for going after the rich”

Based on 25% tips now being demanded (at least per my credit card slips), the price of restaurant food doubling in the past few years (so causing tips to double, even before the 25% crap), plus now being paid $15/hr minimum, I think one can reasonably classify waiters and waitresses as ‘the rich’, and so I’m fine with making them feel a bit of pain.


5 posted on 02/08/2023 8:50:21 PM PST by BobL
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“The wait staff’s tips shouldn’t be taxed at all because the patrons are not their employers and are under no obligation to tip them. It’s really more of a gift given in appreciation for good service.”

If that is the writer’s stance, then anytime they go to a restaurant, bar or have a pizza delivered, they should pay in cash.

If they are not paying cash and tipping in cash for every service worker transaction, their belief that tips should not be taxed is absolute nonsense.


6 posted on 02/08/2023 8:59:27 PM PST by Round Earther
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and elimination of cash.

Uncle Sam hates having to rely on an honor system to rob you of what it claims you owe it.


7 posted on 02/08/2023 9:05:15 PM PST by SPDSHDW (Ya’ll knew he was installed via fraud, and chose to do nothing. Enjoy the roller coaster ride.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The point is to make it so difficult for the workers that they quite, restaurants go out of business and joey has MORE people on UNIVERSAL INCOME. Then the dems can control them. Just a way of buying votes.


8 posted on 02/08/2023 9:06:07 PM PST by Singermom
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To: SeekAndFind

I think everyone has always known the 87K were hired to go after the blue colored workers.


9 posted on 02/08/2023 9:06:08 PM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: Singermom

Quite=QUIT


10 posted on 02/08/2023 9:06:34 PM PST by Singermom
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To: Round Earther

Except that a lot of people get paid 4-5 dollars an hour
because Tips are expected to make the difference.
Therefore it becomes taxable Wages/Compensation.

Federal wage laws say the above scenario is acceptable.


11 posted on 02/08/2023 9:07:12 PM PST by SPDSHDW (Ya’ll knew he was installed via fraud, and chose to do nothing. Enjoy the roller coaster ride.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bottom line is all income is taxable. Some are specifically excluded, but not much.
The problem is we allowed the Federal government to do it in the first place in 1913 with the passage of the 16th Amendment. America as founded did not allow income tax because the founding fathers new what happened when you allowed such a powerful thing as central government, the right to take your money.
Look at the un-manageable behemoth we have today.
The original government handled it’s Constitutional functions just fine on it Constitutional revenue streams.
We could do the same today.
I could name hundreds of things the US government does for which there is no specific Constitutionally granted power.
The generalization of “General welfare” is why we are in so much debt.
States were supposed to perform most all those functions, housing, health, education, transportation, et al.
Problem is it scares the shit out of Democrats and RINOs is that people can actually do what they think is right and not what the Party thinks is right.
Be Woke, Go broke. I hope you Democrats starve
and you will.
As long as we have cash, we can screw the Feds. Don’t ever give up cash.


12 posted on 02/08/2023 9:19:40 PM PST by rellic
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Never blame a beggar for asking money. The enabler is always the giver.


13 posted on 02/08/2023 9:23:52 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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The premise of this article is total B.S. I’ve been doing taxes for over 50 years and under reporting of tip income has been a problem way before that. It has nothing to do with the 87,000 new “agents”. You think it’s ok for wait staff to bank $4,000 a month tax free? Why do they get a pass when the rest of us can’t afford a BMW like they have because we pay taxes on all our earnings. And what about restaurant owners that steal some or most of those tips from the wait staff because they don’t properly account for and report all tips paid by customers? I’ve seen it hundreds of times, and it isn’t going away unless someone big enough to rap the knuckles of the greedy restaurant owners does something about it. Unfortunately, that big bully is the IRS, unless you want to step in.


14 posted on 02/08/2023 9:23:56 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: entropy12

I blame the beggar and the giver. They’re both crooks.


15 posted on 02/08/2023 9:40:51 PM PST by Allegra
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To: rellic

RE: Bottom line is all income is taxable.

That would include money made from panhandling or busking on the streets. Last I heard, the IRS was not going after that. Will they now? I thought tax increases were only for those making over $400,000 ( that’s what Joe and Kamala said ) ....


16 posted on 02/08/2023 9:41:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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I've been doing online surveys for well over 15 years on e-Rewards. Each survey offers an amount of money for completing them. If your survey is ended before you finish it, you get a partial credit. You can only use the rewards you earn in exchange for airline miles, hotel reward points, gift cards, and magazine subscriptions. The rewards come with specific time frames. Some you can order every 30 days, others are 90 days or above. For example, if you order a $25 gift card for PetSmart, you pay $75 from you rewards cash for it.

This is the first year I have been made to claim the rewards that I earn for completing the surveys on my Federal tax return. Because I made over $600 last year, I received a 1099-NEC (Non-Employee Compensation) from the company that runs e-Rewards. Of course I have no way of knowing whether the $805 the company claims I earned, was actually the correct amount. I get no annual statement from them regarding the surveys I've completed, and the money I earned. I have no idea if the gift cards I get in exchange for reward money, are included in the $805. On the e-Rewards website you can only go back two months to view the surveys you've completed, and the rewards money you earned. I didn't know anything about the new $600 rule until the end of 2022, when I was told I had to fill out a form for the company, providing my social security number, and submit it. They wanted you to fill the form out online, but I refused to do that, and demanded that I be given a snail mail for the company, so I could send it in that way.

What I don't understand, is if the company is required to send you a 1099-NEC if you earn over $600 in a year, why do I have to claim the whole $805, and not just the $205 over the $600 limit? I had to fill out and include Schedule C for this compensation with my 1040 form. I get a pension and social security, own nothing, no money in the bank, no stocks or bonds, nothing. I have done paper returns my whole life. Last year, with no additional paperwork attached, it took the IRS 6 months to send me my refund, when in all the years before, it took between 4-6 weeks. With this crap, I can't imagine how long I'll have to wait this year. FJB.

17 posted on 02/08/2023 10:37:58 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: SeekAndFind

We shouldn’t even have income tax. We are slaves.


18 posted on 02/09/2023 1:05:27 AM PST by vivenne
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To: mass55th

You actually sent your SS# to a company that does online surveys?


19 posted on 02/09/2023 1:37:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: BobL

I would have thought it has gotten harder to hide tip income from the IRS as more and more people use credit and debit cards for everyday transactions. Restaurant owners have an incentive to process these credit/debit tips as payroll income anyway — and even deduct 2%-3% of a waiter’s tips to cover the cost of credit card processing fees.


20 posted on 02/09/2023 2:04:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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