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1 posted on 02/08/2023 6:41:00 PM PST by JonPreston
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"Wagner" - Russian PMC Wagner War Song ("Вагнер")
2 posted on 02/08/2023 6:42:23 PM PST by JonPreston
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Russia will find some way to lose


3 posted on 02/08/2023 6:43:07 PM PST by canuck_conservative (12th month, no end in sight)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OslhINbVQc


4 posted on 02/08/2023 6:43:55 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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DPA war, a YouTube blog said Russia just made a breakthrough north of Bakhmut. Said the front just disintegrated and it looks bad for the Ukes.

Very recent , like in the last 5 hours.

No idea how reliable.


7 posted on 02/08/2023 6:48:30 PM PST by Phoenix8
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But you told us they surrounded it days ago. You mean you lied to us? I am shocked, shocked.


8 posted on 02/08/2023 6:49:38 PM PST by devere
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A bunch of white people killed off. Thrillingly for the globalists.


14 posted on 02/08/2023 6:52:52 PM PST by Rural_Michigan
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I am not taking a side here with this post. All in this battle are human beings with mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, children, wives, sweethearts, whether Ukrainian or Russian or something else.

If this report is true (and who knows what is true or not in this war?), it is beyond heartbreaking if the Ukrainian guys were left there to be slaughtered en masse.

Kyrie Eleison.


16 posted on 02/08/2023 6:53:20 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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https://t.me/IntelRepublic/13432


21 posted on 02/08/2023 6:57:04 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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https://t.me/IntelRepublic/13432


22 posted on 02/08/2023 6:57:06 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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I think we need to give more tanks, then planes, and then nukes to Ukraine. Unlimited escalation because we cannot let Putin win.

/s


28 posted on 02/08/2023 7:03:39 PM PST by ARW
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Given that the US has now attacked Russian infrastructure in international waters, we can expect retaliation somewhere in some form.

Given that the Obama/Bidet administration, Dems, GOPe, MSM, Soros & big War all have stated openly that Ukraine cannot lose, we are clearly going to direct war with Russia.

So, we can expect that American boys are girls will be getting sent to the Eastern Front to save demoncracy.


31 posted on 02/08/2023 7:06:45 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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Once Bahkmut is under Russian control, the Ukrainians are finished in Donetsk and Donbass.

The territory annexed by Russia is never going back to Ukraine. Even if we put boots on the ground, God forbid, it wouldn't.

It's time to stop wasting tax dollars and feeding Ukrainians into the Russian meat grinder and do as Trump has suggested and negotiate and end to the war. If that means unconditionally surrender, so be it.

Continuing this war simply will result in needless loss of Ukrainian life, Ukraine continuing to shrink and more wasted tax dollars.

34 posted on 02/08/2023 7:09:06 PM PST by Kazan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLD2JzTYu0

I think this one is more recent and a bit more accurate.

Looks to me they have swung south and are circling the town now.


36 posted on 02/08/2023 7:11:07 PM PST by crz
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🇷🇺 have entered the northernmost outskirts of the city.

38 posted on 02/08/2023 7:11:56 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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From the Ukrainian point of view, losing Bakhmut is a defeat, not a major defeat. For Russia advancing beyond is going to be just as hard as taking Bakhmut. Russia through Wagner is trading the lives of conscripts for a few meters per day. Ukraine is trading those meters per day for time to train soldiers and get more and better equipment. Long term, that favors Ukraine, not Russia.


40 posted on 02/08/2023 7:13:10 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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ISW said yesterday that Bakmut would not be cut off and would not fall.


41 posted on 02/08/2023 7:14:08 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Look at a topographic map: the Ukrainians are holding the high ground on the north and south sides of Bakhmut. The southern road lies in the valley behind the canal or small river, so it's not surprising the Russians have crossed it. The main road is still available, though of course subject to some Russian artillery.

The Russians will have a very hard time dislodging the Ukrainians from the high ground, but if they begin doing so the Ukrainians will simply withdraw slowly from Bakhmut. The Ukrainian goal is simply to hold on and inflict as many casualties as possible before falling back to a new set of fortified positions behind them. Despite the addition of Russian troops from the callup the advances are at a walking pace. The fighting will follow more or less the same pattern as last summer's offensive, only with much higher losses for the Russian side.

The Russian goal is simply to push the Ukrainians out of the last parts of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts and then try to force Ukraine to recognize the annexations of the territories occupied since last year, which the Ukrainians will probably refuse. When the offensive crawls to halt, the Ukrainians should have received much of the additional armor already promised, longer range artillery and possibly some combat aircraft as well.

48 posted on 02/08/2023 7:24:10 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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I’ve posted this b4, but I’m confident of it’s truth

Zelenksy is a pawn, the Uke people are victims of MIC lust for $$$ via war.
I visualize a NATO war w 95% USA military - Why - bec of MIC lust for $$$ via war.


57 posted on 02/08/2023 7:40:59 PM PST by fastrock ( )
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The capture of Bakhmut pretty much sets the stage for the complete liberation of the Donbass.

The only question now is how far east Russia will need to go to create enough of a buffer to keep Donbass and Crimea safe from terrorist attacks. I can imagine that being a difficult decision for Russia since, as they go further west, the people get less and less friendly towards them.


59 posted on 02/08/2023 7:43:58 PM PST by BobL
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Ukraine ping

Article is from 1/23/23, 16 days ago. As of 2/7/23, the map looked like this:


63 posted on 02/08/2023 8:15:36 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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