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Ukraine line collapsed entirely N of Bakhmut / W of Soledar; road to Slovyansk cut
DPA War ^ | 2/8/2023 | DPA War

Posted on 02/08/2023 3:15:34 PM PST by Godebert

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To: Godebert

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61 posted on 02/08/2023 7:50:55 PM PST by jdege
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To: BobL

Even if that takes them all the way to the English Channel?

Should it also work in reverse? How far into Russia should it’s neighbors go before they can feel safe enough from Russian aggression to not need more territory?


62 posted on 02/08/2023 7:54:09 PM PST by Salohcin
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Your so-called “denazification” is nothing more than oppressing anyone who refuses to bend the knee to Putin.


63 posted on 02/08/2023 8:01:29 PM PST by Salohcin
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“Even if that takes them all the way to the English Channel?”

That’s up to NATO. Cannot work in reverse, as NATO is virtually disarmed at this point (they were barely armed when the liberation of Ukraine began). Putin could virtually march into Paris and Berlin at this point without having to worry about opposition, other than nukes, which won’t end well for the West either (since the West cannot intercept incoming Russian nukes).


64 posted on 02/08/2023 8:04:13 PM PST by BobL
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To: Salohcin

“Your so-called “denazification” is nothing more than oppressing anyone who refuses to bend the knee to Putin.”

I have to admit, it will be interesting to see how Putin finally rids Ukraine of their Banderites, since it does seem rather entrenched in the far West. It’s possible that Putin simply hands that piece of Ukraine over to Poland, which also has a few things to settle with the Banderites and Poland gets to clean up the mess there.


65 posted on 02/08/2023 8:07:31 PM PST by BobL
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You just contradicted your own taking point. If NATO is virtually disarmed now (and barely armed prior to the Russian invasion oh Ukraine), then Russia had no credible fear of NATO aggression.


66 posted on 02/08/2023 8:09:08 PM PST by Salohcin
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“You just contradicted your own taking point. If NATO is virtually disarmed now (and barely armed prior to the Russian invasion oh Ukraine), then Russia had no credible fear of NATO aggression.”

I didn’t say PERMANENTLY disarmed - in 10 years NATO will again be on the march towards Moscow, once they figure out how to get Drag Queens to build tanks.


67 posted on 02/08/2023 8:15:44 PM PST by BobL
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Gulags and firing squads are what I would expect from a former KGB thug like Putin. Btw, if Russia does manage to occupy all of Ukraine I believe you will find that Ukrainian nationalism is far more entrenched than just in western Ukraine, and it is the actions of the Russians that is fueling it.


68 posted on 02/08/2023 8:17:39 PM PST by Salohcin
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To: BobL

Delusions and paranoia, it must be sad living in your world.


69 posted on 02/08/2023 8:20:14 PM PST by Salohcin
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“Delusions and paranoia, it must be sad living in your world.”

Naa, just recounting the NATO history of expanding East, and trying to expand into Ukraine.

Anyway, those days are over, THANKFULLY.


70 posted on 02/08/2023 8:21:48 PM PST by BobL
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“Btw, if Russia does manage to occupy all of Ukraine I believe you will find that Ukrainian nationalism is far more entrenched than just in western Ukraine, and it is the actions of the Russians that is fueling it.”

You might want to read up on what life in Ukraine was like for Russian speakers BEFORE 2022 - it wasn’t fun.


71 posted on 02/08/2023 8:23:15 PM PST by BobL
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Your time would have been better spent if you had contemplated on how Russia’s actions drove its neighbors to want to join a defensive alliance to protect themselves.


72 posted on 02/08/2023 8:25:25 PM PST by Salohcin
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“Your time would have been better spent if you had contemplated on how Russia’s actions drove its neighbors to want to join a defensive alliance to protect themselves.”

What actions did Russia take to drive Eastern European nations into NATO?


73 posted on 02/08/2023 8:27:45 PM PST by BobL
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To: Salohcin

Do you mean an alliance solidified by Joe Biden?


74 posted on 02/08/2023 8:28:31 PM PST by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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So Sweden and Finland have asked to join NATO because they want to invade Russia and get a share of Russian territory when it partitioned, right?


75 posted on 02/08/2023 8:42:50 PM PST by Salohcin
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“So Sweden and Finland have asked to join NATO because they want to invade Russia and get a share of Russian territory when it partitioned, right?”

Wouldn’t surprise me, but I was referring to what led up to the need to Liberate Ukraine - which was prior to 2014 - plenty of countries making moves for NATO back then.


76 posted on 02/08/2023 8:46:08 PM PST by BobL
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“Liberate”? You need to look up the definition of that word. Conquering another sovereign nation in an imperialistic war is not liberating.


77 posted on 02/08/2023 8:51:22 PM PST by Salohcin
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““Liberate”? You need to look up the definition of that word. Conquering another sovereign nation in an imperialistic war is not liberating.”

Kind of stings when I use that term, ehhh.


78 posted on 02/08/2023 8:54:59 PM PST by BobL
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"What actions did Russia take to drive Eastern European nations into NATO?"

What actions?


79 posted on 03/13/2023 4:43:02 AM PDT by Cronos
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So I see that you think WW2 is still going on. Time to let go, get some help if you can, same to Duda.


80 posted on 03/13/2023 4:56:19 AM PDT by BobL
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