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Want To Buy An EV? Warning: Charging Stations Are (Often) Broken
https://www.forbes.com ^ | 1/15/2023 | Brooke Crothers

Posted on 02/05/2023 2:43:27 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

I’m an EV proponent. The more EVs on the road the better. There’s a hitch, though. The more EVs that hit the road, the worse charging infrastructure reliability seems to get.

Electrify America had a great buildout but bad follow-through I’ve been driving an EV since the dawn of commercial electric cars. That’s actually not a long time. A little more than 10 years. But it’s plenty of time to become an expert on the charging infrastructure in a city (and state) with high EV adoption. That would be Los Angeles.

Electrify America has been building out its charging network across California and Los Angeles at a furious pace. It’s now the public Level 3 fast-charging station of choice for the majority of non-Tesla EV owners in Los Angeles. And I presume the U.S. as a whole.

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1 posted on 02/05/2023 2:43:27 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Sounds like the mcdonald’s ice cream machine.


2 posted on 02/05/2023 2:46:15 PM PST by Theoria
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To: RomanSoldier19

>> Imagine if every time you went to the gas station, it was a 50-50 proposition that the pump would work. <<

This is EXACTLY my experience. Is this odd, or just a Northeastern/Mid Atlantic/Virginia thing?


3 posted on 02/05/2023 2:47:34 PM PST by dangus
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To: RomanSoldier19

“I’ve been driving an EV since the dawn of commercial electric cars.”

That was Duryea Motor Co in 1895, and the fad died out in 1915, eclipsed by steam and ICE.


4 posted on 02/05/2023 2:51:05 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: dangus

Gas stations get inspections regularly. Owners/employees are there everyday monitoring their gas station and such.

No similar system with the public ev charging areas. Tragedyof the Commons is occurring, no surprise.


5 posted on 02/05/2023 2:51:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Theoria
Sounds like the mcdonald’s ice cream machine
6 posted on 02/05/2023 2:54:34 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

First lie I spotted: the dawn of the electric car 10 years ago.

History article:
By 1900, electric cars were so popular that New York City had a fleet of electric taxis, and electric cars accounted for a third of all vehicles ....

Before Tesla: Why everyone wanted an electric car in 1905https://archive.curbed.com › electric-car-history


7 posted on 02/05/2023 2:57:27 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: RomanSoldier19
Who has got time if they are actually trying to make a living to sit around and wait for a charge-up? The entire idea is asinine, borne on the minds of those who don't have to work for a living.
8 posted on 02/05/2023 2:59:49 PM PST by iontheball
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To: dangus

Just as we have Gas Buddy for ICE.

There should be a website to see times, chargers working, etc for E.V.


9 posted on 02/05/2023 3:00:27 PM PST by George from New England
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To: RomanSoldier19

The ABCs of living with batteries:

Always Be Charging.


10 posted on 02/05/2023 3:02:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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11 posted on 02/05/2023 3:02:25 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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To: Secret Agent Man

I predict that thefts of the charging cable will be rampant, particularly in urban areas that have a large Amish populations. It only takes a few seconds for a crew to pull up, get out with bolt chops, whack off the cable and disable half a dozen charging stations and be gone before the attendant can call the cops. It will be even worse for those unattended charging stations located in remote areas. Mark my work it will happen.


12 posted on 02/05/2023 3:04:12 PM PST by technically right
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To: RomanSoldier19

AAA —Have generator, will travel.(Pallid...)


13 posted on 02/05/2023 3:06:22 PM PST by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: RomanSoldier19
Can we evacuate from hurricanes with electric vehicles?

If you can’t evacuate don’t leave the EV in the garage. They may burn your house down even if it (your house) is flooded.

14 posted on 02/05/2023 3:08:17 PM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives: Ban Gun Free Zones)
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To: technically right

Every once in a while some ‘Tard tries that around here but the target is the 220v 3ph. cable running to farmers well pumps.
They are usually found, fried, by the farmer in a day or two.

I expect the volts/amps to a fast charger are about the same.


15 posted on 02/05/2023 3:11:16 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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The more EVs on the road the better. ...
The better for what?
16 posted on 02/05/2023 3:11:22 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Secret Agent Man

A common problem in LA & other cities is that thieves Steel the cords for the copper.


17 posted on 02/05/2023 3:12:14 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Secret Agent Man

>> Gas stations get inspections regularly. Owners/employees are there everyday monitoring their gas station and such... No similar system with the public ev charging areas. Tragedy of the Commons is occurring, no surprise. <<

I don’t thing the “Tragedy of the Commons” is what you think it is. It’s the proto-Communist notion that only Big Government can protect people from their own stupid, selfish actions. EV stations aren’t some “commons.” Whether owned by corporations specializing in “public” charging, like ChargePoint, or by businesses focused on something else but leasing charging stations to draw customers, they are often government-contracted but privately owned and lose business if people don’t/can’t use them.


18 posted on 02/05/2023 3:12:31 PM PST by dangus
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To: immadashell


19 posted on 02/05/2023 3:16:18 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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This is a feature, not a flaw. Joe Biden doesn’t want you to drive an electric car so that you can move about freely; he wants you to drive an electric car so that he can hinder you from doing so.


20 posted on 02/05/2023 3:16:54 PM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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