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Who Benefits From Our Prolonged Financing Of The Ukraine War?
The Federalist ^ | FEBRUARY 03, 2023 | REP. WARREN DAVIDSON

Posted on 02/04/2023 12:10:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

As we approach the first anniversary of the Russian military’s invasion of Ukraine, it’s becoming increasingly important for Americans to ask: Who benefits?

America’s open checkbook for Ukraine is more likely to produce a long war than a swiftly decisive outcome. Three groups favor a long war in Ukraine: Vladimir Putin, the global industrial defense complex, and China.

As long as a state of war persists in Ukraine, even at a low simmer, Putin achieves his goal: Ukraine will not be part of NATO. As President Eisenhower cautioned, an overly powerful military-industrial complex risks putting its own interests and the truth at odds with America’s interests. Finally, China has greatly benefited from the ways America has squandered the post-Cold War era. American foreign policy needs strategic depth, not the same flawed approach that has left America less free, less safe, and more burdened by debt.

Pundits and intelligence professionals have attributed a host of motives to explain Putin’s unjust invasion of Ukraine. I won’t explore them here, but they all share one common theme. Putin does not want Ukraine to become a member of NATO or part of the European Union. While a state of war persists in Ukraine, neither will happen.

Providing an expectation that America will either fight or fund another endless war risks a catastrophic failure. Moreover, since our rational objectives do diverge, it provides no incentive for Ukraine’s President Zelensky to pursue more limited objectives or alternatives to America’s blank check.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bidencrimefamily; ftxdonationstodems; ftxwhslackchannel; moneylaundering; ukraine; ukrainewar; zelenskyqs
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To: House Atreides
Wow, our 20 year war in Afghanistan must have been STUNNINGLY EFFECTIVE
I like how you compare Putin's failing Terror Invasion to 20 years.
21 posted on 02/04/2023 12:43:14 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JesusIsLord

They’re self-serving, evil people.


22 posted on 02/04/2023 12:52:35 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Bulwyf; Sunsong

Yep. And this would have been over in a few weeks. And at least 100,000 Ukrainians would still be alive. Dogs still in homes. Buildings still intact. Thousands of people not tied to poles with saran wrap, had their pants dropped, and left to freeze. I watched Ukronazis pour cold water down the shirt of one guy after doing that to him. Snow on the ground I believe.

Cannon Fodder Ukrainians. I feel so sorry for them. Being used by the west. Being killed by the west. And now Ukrainians are being pulled from their homes, off the streets, to go fight a war. That is why men dress like old women to go outside in Ukraine.

Who profits from the weapons sold on the blackmarket?
A multitude of countries have found them.

And we know Zelenski is profiting bigtime.
How many homes and yachts does he have now? How about his friend that took off to Israel with six million? Ok, let’s keep this war going. The average Ukrainian loses everything and the guys at the top are enjoying being bandits.

I am clueless why any American loves Blackrock enough to back them. And apparently thinks suffering as the Ukrainians have is ok to give up a few sections of land they are going to lose anyway, and whose people they wanted dead.

Absolutely mindboggling that anyone supports this war. And without a doubt they either live in another country, are being paid as an influencer here, or are very very ignorant and uncaring.
And people here posting are not having to help their husband or son dress like an old woman to go to the store to avoid being enlisted, then sealed into tanks and sent to fight.


23 posted on 02/04/2023 12:53:58 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Rurudyne

The Big Guy !


24 posted on 02/04/2023 12:54:48 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: Sunsong

Whose benefiting? Plenty of self-serving politicians and other people lining their pockets and the Military Industrial Complex. They are doing it at the expense of the security and preparedness of the USA.


25 posted on 02/04/2023 12:56:06 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

BINGO!!


26 posted on 02/04/2023 12:58:22 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: cquiggy

I’m not convinced that they are really selling us out for enough to come out ahead when it all falls apart. As I penned earlier today their treachery has only been for a relative pittance....

(musical sting)

From the tenure of Bill Clinton
And the days of Charlie Trie
They have sold out their country
For a pittance betrayed you and me
Sold us out to ChiComs and Cartels
To Jihadist and Norks too
They are the Democrat party
Accusing others of what they do


27 posted on 02/04/2023 12:58:41 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: MarMema

Very good post. Well said!!


28 posted on 02/04/2023 1:01:08 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Salohcin

Putin wants the strategic and precious metals that sit under Ukraine.


29 posted on 02/04/2023 1:01:29 PM PST by Fireone (The only reason our elections are complicated is because the cheaters want it that way.)
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To: Salohcin

” Putin’s goal are more extensive than that. He wants, as a minimum, to turn Ukraine into a vassal state of Russia, and, at a maximum, to annex Ukraine into Russia to fulfill his goal of reuniting all of the Russian people (which he has stated includes the Ukrainians). Putin will never willingly accept a truly neutral and independent Ukraine that outside of Russia’s “sphere of privileged influence.”

These are both lies. Putin has never stated any of the above.
He has given countless speeches and been very consistent about what Russia has done in Ukraine.

Newbies to following Russia missed other bombings and wars.
Russia could have grazed Ukraine to the ground in under a week. They did it to the chechens. I was horrified.
Grozny looked like a nuclear bomb had hit it.
What we did to Berlin doesn’t even compare.

Without historical perspective, people, often from other countries, post all their myths and BS here because they just don’t know.

I have, quite frankly, been amazed at how kind Russia has been in this war.
I have followed Putin and Russia very closely since the 90s.
Most of you here are just jumping in with your assumptions after being brainwashed by the media and repeating it.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/776355/posts


30 posted on 02/04/2023 1:02:24 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema
Absolutely mindboggling that anyone supports this war

yet you never criticize Putin for starting this war 1 year ago


31 posted on 02/04/2023 1:03:59 PM PST by canuck_conservative (12th month now, and no end in sight)
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To: dfwgator

“So we can replace it with US corruption and influence”.

Absolutely!

And to protect/hide the US corruption in Ukraine.


32 posted on 02/04/2023 1:04:55 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Fireone; All

That is what Ukraine wanted to keep, except first they tried to kill and spoke of genocide of the people living in Donbas, on tv.

Donbas was a poor postindustrial region with few jobs, many on the dole, and after they were told to give up everything Russian, I am sure Ukraine hoped they would move to Russia.
Taking away their water and other public services wasn’t enough to chase them off, shelling and persecution didn’t work. Poroshenko gave a now famous speech saying their pensions were gone, their children would continue growing up in basements.

Russia waited 8 long years, watched the Azov nazis grow stronger and kill more people, pregnant women hung, children shelled.

Ukraine was planned to become the home of all white nationalists in the world. “Ukraine above all”
Ever see the videos of the childrens camps?

Russia did the world a huge favor. Many, many of those from other countries who went to fight for Ukraine and died were nazis.
The baltics are very intensely riddled with them.
I watched this video of Christmas in Latvia and it was beautiful, and then halfway through the video, there are swastikas lining the fence behind the public place with the families and tree.

German tv had a live video they were making, pro Ukraine, and while they are making it, a tank rolls by behind the cameraman with a swastika on it.

Same for I think Polisgh tv...They were making a video inside the home of a Ukrainian family and after conversation, etc, they camera strolls up to the refrigerator where on top of it is swastika statue.

God has a sense of humor.


33 posted on 02/04/2023 1:18:20 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: laplata

“And to protect/hide the US corruption in Ukraine.”

Biolabs here in the US must operate under very strict rules.
In Ukraine, doubtful.


34 posted on 02/04/2023 1:19:42 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

True. More reason to hide them.


35 posted on 02/04/2023 1:25:58 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Deep States worldwide, including ours.


36 posted on 02/04/2023 1:27:12 PM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: MarMema

pure and utter BS

you really need to tell yourself the truth


37 posted on 02/04/2023 1:36:06 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: laplata

not true


38 posted on 02/04/2023 1:40:21 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Bulwyf

LOL yourself

I hope you never need help...


39 posted on 02/04/2023 1:42:12 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong; AndrewSshi; Cronos
I invite you to read the link in my post 30

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/776355/posts

Reply 42

And what has happened in that ten years? Well, the Soviet Union is gone, with some of its former states wobbling towards democracy, some miredin authoritarianism, and some stuck under Stalinist dictators. But in Russia itself, we have seen in the last few years alone that Putin has pushed through the Duma things like the right to own land, vastly reduced taxes, and the right to trial by jury in criminal trials. Yes, the Russian press is not quite as free as it was about five years ago, but that will pass. On the whole, in addition to the above reforms, Putin has also been working to make sure that his country is friendly to economic growth while also trying to reign in the worst of the criminal businessmen who made Russia such a crappy investment climate in the 90's. Yes, Russia is still bumbling along in her road to being a democracy with a rule of law, and is not quite there yet, but in no way is she the entity against which our fathers and grandfathers stood watch.

40 posted on 02/04/2023 2:04:16 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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