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Decolonizing Russia
CSCE ^ | June 23rd, 2022 | CSCE

Posted on 02/02/2023 2:01:38 PM PST by Mariner

Russia’s barbaric war on Ukraine—and before that on Syria, Libya, Georgia, and Chechnya—has exposed the Russian Federation’s viciously imperial character to the entire world. Its aggression also is catalyzing a long-overdue conversation about Russia’s interior empire, given Moscow’s dominion over many indigenous non-Russian nations, and the brutal extent to which the Kremlin has taken to suppress their national self-expression and self-determination.

Serious and controversial discussions are now underway about reckoning with Russia’s fundamental imperialism and the need to “decolonize” Russia for it to become a viable stakeholder in European security and stability. As the successor to the Soviet Union, which cloaked its colonial agenda in anti-imperial and anti-capitalist nomenclature, Russia has yet to attract appropriate scrutiny for its consistent and oftentimes brutal imperial tendencies.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; zelenskyqs
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To: Dick Vomer

“All the “color” revolutions were State and CIAs PAG projects.”

Ok, and those projects consisted of what? Helping organize mass protests and helping the opposition win elections? Which the CIA has been doing since forever, as well as the KGB/FSB of course, and any other intelligence agency that can manage it. To call that a “coup” is simply silly.

Now, if you poison the elected leader of a country, and then funnel military arms to rebel forces inside that country’s borders, as Russia has done in Ukraine, then that sounds a lot more like a “coup” to me.


61 posted on 02/02/2023 5:43:23 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Mariner

“You’re still lying.”

Lol.

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/0/6/39516.pdf

Notice right there on the second page where the participating member states of the conference are listed???


62 posted on 02/02/2023 5:45:15 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Mariner; Boogieman; BobL

Russian Federation
https://www.csce.gov/country/russian-federation


63 posted on 02/02/2023 5:45:18 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

It’s no use. Facts run off them like water off a duck’s back.


64 posted on 02/02/2023 5:47:09 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Mariner

Pray tell, enlighten us with your historical knowledge and tell us which other colonial power is still retaining any significant colonial subjects besides Russia? Portugal? Sweden? The Netherlands???

Or do you adopt the typical leftist viewpoint that McDonalds count at colonial outposts?


65 posted on 02/02/2023 5:52:54 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman; ansel12; BobL

Well, if you insist I’ll call you a dumbass rather than a liar.

The document you cite is from 1990 and the USSR was a founding member. However, upon the dissolution of the USSR Russia was NEVER a member.

Today the CSCE is exclusively an organization of the US Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Security_and_Cooperation_in_Europe

Carry on. You are now free to continue your dumbassery.


66 posted on 02/02/2023 5:58:43 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Boogieman

By your definition not even Russia is a colonial power.

If a country has completely assimilated its “colonies” it is no longer a colonial power. It is just a country.


67 posted on 02/02/2023 6:02:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Boogieman
Ok, and those projects consisted of what? Helping organize mass protests and helping the opposition win elections? Which the CIA has been doing since forever, as well as the KGB/FSB of course, and any other intelligence agency that can manage it. To call that a “coup” is simply silly.

yeah... it's no big deal. Cuz we were all told that Russians would never invade Ukraine..... what could possibly go wrong ... it's not like American boys and men would enter that meat grinder to defend Ukrainian democracy... or Baltic democracy.. or die in the hills for Moldovan freedom.....or give their lives and limbs for Polish liberty ... or supporting German/French/British freedom fighters....

Cuz our government says that Russia would never use nukes cuz that's just crazy...

it's just a game... nobody is going to get killed by believing government lies...... just like that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that all we needed to do is play nice and the Afghanistan populace would love us to death (they did). ... Gulf of Tonkin, El Salvador needs democrat support, Nicaragua is really a democracy in search of support, and Colombia, Peru, Central Africa, and on and on....

we're getting to see what the Romans saw around 476 a.d.

68 posted on 02/02/2023 6:06:31 PM PST by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: Mariner

“By your definition not even Russia is a colonial power.”

No, because Russia still possesses significant colonial subjects.

“If a country has completely assimilated its “colonies” it is no longer a colonial power.”

Russia certainly hasn’t completed assimilated its colonies. That’s just laughable. Countries that have completely assimilated their colonies don’t usually need 35 official languages, or need to send in their army to suppress rebellions every few years.


69 posted on 02/02/2023 6:07:25 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Dick Vomer

“it’s just a game...”

It’s certainly a very dirty and underhanded and potentially costly “game”, and in a perfect world we could all be glad to say our country is above stooping to such things. But that’s not the world we live in. In the world we live in, if we chose not to play, every other country still would, and we would simply lose the game. So, you know, you can sit around rooting for us to lose if you want, but I’m not about to join you.


70 posted on 02/02/2023 6:10:54 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Mariner

“The document you cite is from 1990 and the USSR was a founding member. However, upon the dissolution of the USSR Russia was NEVER a member.”

Thanks for conceding that. The Russian Federation is the successor state to the USSR, and so yes, the Russian Federation is in fact a founding member of the CSCE by your own admission.

Bye.


71 posted on 02/02/2023 6:12:31 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

How many languages can you get a Federal Ballot in...in the US?


72 posted on 02/02/2023 6:14:37 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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My link was to the participating states, Russia is one of them.

“The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe—also known as the U.S. Helsinki Commission—is an independent U.S. government commission that advances American national security and national interests by promoting human rights, military security, and economic cooperation in 57 countries.”

he OSCE has 57 participating States from Europe, Central Asia and North America:

Albania
Andorra
Armenia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Belarus
Belgium
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Greece
Holy See
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
Montenegro
Netherlands
North Macedonia
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russian Federation
San Marino
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Tajikistan
Türkiye
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan


73 posted on 02/02/2023 6:15:20 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Mariner

How many official languages does the US have?


74 posted on 02/02/2023 6:15:30 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

none


75 posted on 02/02/2023 6:21:39 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ansel12

MEMBERSHIP is limited to members of the US Congress and Executive branch.


76 posted on 02/02/2023 6:25:16 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
"and before that on Syria, Libya,"

???

Western powers have been actively involved in Syria. NATO was the one bombing Libya in 2011, not Russia.

77 posted on 02/02/2023 6:27:45 PM PST by Trump20162020
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To: Mariner

I didn’t use the term “membership”, but in this case, I think the poster was accurate enough.

The “Participating States” would also be called “the members” by most people and/or used interchangeably.

“On August 1, 1975, the leaders of the original 35 participating States gathered in Helsinki and signed the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe.”


78 posted on 02/02/2023 6:32:48 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

the Indians They break into separate tribes with people that are like each other hanging around together and then Competing against each other and the government Stir things up get them onto be at odds with each other.


79 posted on 02/02/2023 7:11:02 PM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: Mariner

It’s AMAZING that some people here are actually UNABLE to understand what a .gov means in the name of a website.


80 posted on 02/02/2023 11:00:35 PM PST by BobL
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