Posted on 02/02/2023 2:01:38 PM PST by Mariner
“All the “color” revolutions were State and CIAs PAG projects.”
Ok, and those projects consisted of what? Helping organize mass protests and helping the opposition win elections? Which the CIA has been doing since forever, as well as the KGB/FSB of course, and any other intelligence agency that can manage it. To call that a “coup” is simply silly.
Now, if you poison the elected leader of a country, and then funnel military arms to rebel forces inside that country’s borders, as Russia has done in Ukraine, then that sounds a lot more like a “coup” to me.
“You’re still lying.”
Lol.
https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/0/6/39516.pdf
Notice right there on the second page where the participating member states of the conference are listed???
Russian Federation
https://www.csce.gov/country/russian-federation
It’s no use. Facts run off them like water off a duck’s back.
Pray tell, enlighten us with your historical knowledge and tell us which other colonial power is still retaining any significant colonial subjects besides Russia? Portugal? Sweden? The Netherlands???
Or do you adopt the typical leftist viewpoint that McDonalds count at colonial outposts?
Well, if you insist I’ll call you a dumbass rather than a liar.
The document you cite is from 1990 and the USSR was a founding member. However, upon the dissolution of the USSR Russia was NEVER a member.
Today the CSCE is exclusively an organization of the US Congress.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Security_and_Cooperation_in_Europe
Carry on. You are now free to continue your dumbassery.
By your definition not even Russia is a colonial power.
If a country has completely assimilated its “colonies” it is no longer a colonial power. It is just a country.
yeah... it's no big deal. Cuz we were all told that Russians would never invade Ukraine..... what could possibly go wrong ... it's not like American boys and men would enter that meat grinder to defend Ukrainian democracy... or Baltic democracy.. or die in the hills for Moldovan freedom.....or give their lives and limbs for Polish liberty ... or supporting German/French/British freedom fighters....
Cuz our government says that Russia would never use nukes cuz that's just crazy...
it's just a game... nobody is going to get killed by believing government lies...... just like that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that all we needed to do is play nice and the Afghanistan populace would love us to death (they did). ... Gulf of Tonkin, El Salvador needs democrat support, Nicaragua is really a democracy in search of support, and Colombia, Peru, Central Africa, and on and on....
we're getting to see what the Romans saw around 476 a.d.
“By your definition not even Russia is a colonial power.”
No, because Russia still possesses significant colonial subjects.
“If a country has completely assimilated its “colonies” it is no longer a colonial power.”
Russia certainly hasn’t completed assimilated its colonies. That’s just laughable. Countries that have completely assimilated their colonies don’t usually need 35 official languages, or need to send in their army to suppress rebellions every few years.
“it’s just a game...”
It’s certainly a very dirty and underhanded and potentially costly “game”, and in a perfect world we could all be glad to say our country is above stooping to such things. But that’s not the world we live in. In the world we live in, if we chose not to play, every other country still would, and we would simply lose the game. So, you know, you can sit around rooting for us to lose if you want, but I’m not about to join you.
“The document you cite is from 1990 and the USSR was a founding member. However, upon the dissolution of the USSR Russia was NEVER a member.”
Thanks for conceding that. The Russian Federation is the successor state to the USSR, and so yes, the Russian Federation is in fact a founding member of the CSCE by your own admission.
Bye.
How many languages can you get a Federal Ballot in...in the US?
My link was to the participating states, Russia is one of them.
“The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe—also known as the U.S. Helsinki Commission—is an independent U.S. government commission that advances American national security and national interests by promoting human rights, military security, and economic cooperation in 57 countries.”
he OSCE has 57 participating States from Europe, Central Asia and North America:
Albania
Andorra
Armenia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Belarus
Belgium
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Greece
Holy See
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
Montenegro
Netherlands
North Macedonia
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russian Federation
San Marino
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Tajikistan
Türkiye
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan
How many official languages does the US have?
none
MEMBERSHIP is limited to members of the US Congress and Executive branch.
???
Western powers have been actively involved in Syria. NATO was the one bombing Libya in 2011, not Russia.
I didn’t use the term “membership”, but in this case, I think the poster was accurate enough.
The “Participating States” would also be called “the members” by most people and/or used interchangeably.
“On August 1, 1975, the leaders of the original 35 participating States gathered in Helsinki and signed the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe.”
the Indians They break into separate tribes with people that are like each other hanging around together and then Competing against each other and the government Stir things up get them onto be at odds with each other.
It’s AMAZING that some people here are actually UNABLE to understand what a .gov means in the name of a website.
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