Posted on 02/02/2023 1:47:45 PM PST by fluorescence
The White House and the CIA have responded to a report that CIA Director, William Burns, offered Russian President Vladimir Putin a fifth of Ukraine's territory to end the ongoing war as part of a peace plan drawn up on behalf of President Joe Biden.
A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were "completely false."
Last month, Burns traveled in secret to meet and brief Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv, The Washington Post reported.
Burns is said to have submitted the plan in mid-January to put an end to the war, which began on February 24, 2022. The story was reported by NZZ on Thursday, citing high-ranking German foreign politicians.
Both Kyiv and Moscow reportedly rejected the proposal.
Newsweek reached out to the foreign ministries of Ukraine and Russia for comment.
According to the newspaper, the proposal offered "around 20 percent of Ukraine's territory"—approximately the size of Ukraine's eastern Donbas region.
Kyiv reportedly shut down the proposal "because they are not willing to have their territory divided" while Russian officials said they "will win the war in the long run anyway," reported NZZ, which has been described as the Swiss newspaper of record.
Sean Davett, the deputy spokesperson at White House's National Security Council, told Newsweek that the report from NZZ is "not accurate," and that the CIA would say the same.
According to the news outlet the German politicians said Biden wanted to avoid a protracted war in Ukraine, and so, offered the territory as part of the peace plan.
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You get it. Right and wrong isn’t the issue. The issue is power.
And we have it.
We tell Ukraine to shit and they ask us how much and what color.
It’s 30 US tanks and they won’t arrive until next year, anway. Brandon is just jumping to the head of the tank parade that was going to happen anyway. He’s led from behind the entire time on this issue and really couldn’t care less. Ukraine is getting in the way of their agenda. They want war on us and not Putin’s Russia.
Don’t they already control 20 percent ? At least that was according to Milley’s statement.
“Where is that on Maslow’s hierarchy?”
If you are talking about Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, it isn’t.
You are probably alluding to Elizabeth Kubler-Ross’s “Seven Stages of Grief.” And it would fall under “Bargaining.”
Given these provinces formed their own militias, voted to leave Ukraine, and have been under attack from Ukraine since 2014, I'd say the opposite is true.
Bull baloney
“According to the news outlet the German politicians said Biden wanted to avoid a protracted war in Ukraine, and so, offered the territory as part of the peace plan.
And when Ukraine and Russia both rejected the proposal, the Biden administration pledged to provide Kyiv with Abrams tanks, NZZ reported.”
Gee, Trump was impeached because of a phone call.
But he was D different.
Biden is making up bs because he’s getting flack about the tanks.
“A year ago, the Russians would likely have accepted this offer so long as they had guarantee of Ukrainian neutrality.”
Are you saying that if Ukraine had offered neutrality a year ago Russia would not have invaded? Yes or no?
Yep. And now Russia would be foolish to stop at anything but the whole enchilada. Every major western leader has openly declared they are at war with Russia, the goal is the break-up of Russia, etc...
There will be no peace with a divided Ukraine.
Yawn. Ukraine has been slaughtering Russians in the east for 10 years, after we overthrew their pro Russian government and installed a puppet regime. It just took Russia this long to step in. Get a clue, kid.
“Don’t they already control 20 percent ? At least that was according to Milley’s statement.”
Thereabouts.
Mr. 3-state solution.
Joe, Golda Mier never listened to you, Carter and Arafat never listened to you, Reagan never listened to, GHW & GW Bush never listened to you and even Obama never listened to you. So shut the hell up.
Well this sure sounds like the acts of a winning team giving away what you’re winning back
This is basically what Putin and Zelensky agreed to in Turkey last March. Boris Johnson blew the deal up on behalf of Demented Joe. 500,000 deaths later, the same deal surfaces. Yet another Neocon disaster.
Pretty outrageous. Bush Jr was calling for nato in Ukraine since 2008. It is our country that has manipulated Ukrainian politics and has interfered in business that is not ours. Russia has been saying the same thing since then, keep nato away. Why couldn’t that be respected?
I’m no fan of Russia. But, I’m no fan of this country sticking their political and military business where it doesn’t belong. We’ve done this too much and too many wars have occurred because of it.
I’m sorry deeply ashamed of our involvement.
“Verdict: Our gov is lying to us, again.”
It would be easier if you would just let us know when they are telling the truth.
Yawn. Ukraine has been slaughtering Russians in the east for 10 years, after we overthrew their pro Russian government and installed a puppet regime. It just took Russia this long to step in. Get a clue, kid.
Yes, and those 20,000 Poles shot themselves in the head at Katyn. The Kremlin lied about Katyn for 50 years and now they lie about “oppressed” ethnic Russians in Ukraine. A Bolshevik like Putin lies as easily as he breaths. Don’t be duped by Kremlin gaslighting. We’re better than that.
I don’t suffer from battered wife syndrome.
I remember and learn from my experiences.
I don’t ignore past behavior in evaluating current claims.
You?
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