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Putin issues threat to US: Vladimir says 'we will deploy more than tanks' and warns 'we have friends on America continent' as he claims Russia is 'again' threatened by German tanks at WW2 ceremony
Daily Mail ^ | 2/2/2023 | Will Stewart

Posted on 02/02/2023 8:14:18 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that Russia was being threatened by German tanks, like during World War Two, speaking at an event in Volgograd, formerly Stalingrad, marking the Soviet victory over Nazi forces in the city.

'It's unbelievable but true. We are again being threatened by German Leopard tanks,' Putin said, adding that Russia had an 'answer' to any country that threatened it.

Putin appeared to have brought his 'nuclear football' to Volgograd.

Aides were seen close to the dictator carrying two black bags.

Observers believed one was a fold-up shield to protect Putin in the event of shooting, while the other is likely to contain Russia's nuclear key.

A security officer carrying the 'nuclear bag' has been seen previously close to Putin during the war with Ukraine.

Russian officials and propagandists have threatened the West with nuclear strikes over their military support for Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: MarMema

I take the “we have friends..” comment to mean a fifth column just itching to be activated in the event of a Russo-US war.


101 posted on 02/02/2023 11:13:10 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: DavidThomas

They are in some cases encouraged by Russia’s embrace of Christianity. Unfortunately, that “Christianity” doesn’t sound much like Christ, and seems to be rooted in the period from 476-1000 AD.


102 posted on 02/02/2023 11:19:32 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: RinaseaofDs

The Russian assets in the Americas will be clear when we face attacks from Agents in the USA. Cuba and Central America. The Cartels of Mexico (the real power in Mexico) will side with Putin. So will Brazil and Venezuela and Bolivia. Russian Swan bombers can refuel their before hitting America. Can we invade Cuba and Ukraine at the same time?


103 posted on 02/02/2023 11:26:10 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: McCarthysGhost
Let’s hope it’s Russia. I could kick back and drink some vodka. China may be a little too stringent.

I imagine in either case, America would be a generally autonomous frontier territory.

Global hegemony will not really be thing after the US collapses.

I think the best prediction is that the world will essentially reorganize into scattered city states that cater to/defend the elites. Look to your favorite dystopian sci-fi, for plausible examples.

104 posted on 02/02/2023 11:33:47 AM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: marcusmaximus

More likely, he was referring to Cuba, Mexico, Brazil and Venezuela.


105 posted on 02/02/2023 11:57:52 AM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: MarMema

Comparing a mass murdering tyrant like Lenin to men like Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Stonewall Jackson, who fought for Southern independence, is ridiculous. Except for Stalin, Lenin was the most evil ruler the Soviets ever had. Along with Trotsky, he attempted to spread Communism to Poland and supported Red revolutionaries in German and Hungary. As for Lenin statues, the ones in Western countries are privately owned. The ones in Russia are in public squares, not to mention Lenin’s remains still honored in a shrine at Red Square.


106 posted on 02/02/2023 11:58:19 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: MarMema
We don’t take pictures and post them on twitter, along with ideas that Michiganders want to bring back the Confederacy.


107 posted on 02/02/2023 12:12:44 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: MarMema

DT’s Art of the Deal. Friends close, friends of enemies closer.

I still believe DT could have stopped the coming war. That’s much better than all the so-called accomplishments of the present WH squatter(s).


108 posted on 02/02/2023 1:13:37 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: marcusmaximus

?????


109 posted on 02/02/2023 1:34:57 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Chunga85

“As an American, the best advice I can offer to Taiwan is *never* follow the advice of Americans.

Taiwan, decide for yourselves what you want to do. The former state of Ukraine is being destroyed for listening to Americans.

The entire thinking world is going to come to accept who instigated the Maidan Coup and who sabotaged Nord I and Nord II.”

Amen. You’re one of the few voices of sanity on this giant disinformation propaganda thread.*

*Sponsored and paid for by, The US State Department, Pentagon, and The Massive Ukraine Lobby via their obvious paid shills here.

Yes, a variety of public sources have revealed they pay shills to post their propaganda HERE IN THE US!!! Should absolutely be illegal, and it used to be, but now they have free reign on FR and other social sites.


110 posted on 02/02/2023 2:06:00 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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To: MarMema
I do not understand when you say that Orthodoxy has nothing similar to western faiths. In doctrinal matters, Orthodoxy disagrees with Roman Catholicism on issues such as purgatory, Papal supremacy and infallibility, the Ascension of the Virgin Mary, and the relation of the Holy Spirit to the Father and the Son. However, Orthodoxy agrees with Roman Catholicism with regard to key issues, such as Jesus's substitutionary atonement, the nature of the Trinity, apostolic succession, seven sacraments (though the Orthodox position on the Eucharist is closer to Lutheran consubstantiation than RC transubstantiation), divine revelation combining Scripture and tradition (though rejecting the ecumenical councils after the split in 1054), acceptance of the Deuterocanonical or Apocryphal books as Scripture, veneration of the saints and the Virgin Mary. Most Protestants, except for some Lutherans and Anglicans, reject these positions, substitutionary atonement and the nature of the Trinity excepted. In turn, both Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism reject the five Reformation solas.
111 posted on 02/02/2023 2:09:25 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Bonemaker

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/70434

“However incredible, it is a fact – we are again being threatened with German Leopard tanks with crosses on board. There is again a plan to fight Russia on Ukrainian land using Hitler’s successors, the Banderites.

We know that despite the efforts of official bodies and the corrupt propaganda of the unfriendly Western elites, we have many friends all over the world, including the Americas, North America, and Europe.”

What do you think? Similar?

Russians are really huge on this. WW2 redux to them.
They are flying Soviet flags on their tanks as a joke related to this.
For me - I am thinking “so?”

But Russians are big on military history.
You visit them in a city and the first place they take you is a statue of some WW2 general, and then they tell you all about what happened.

Visit Americans and they take you to a restaurant or popular waterfront area.

Different cultures.


112 posted on 02/02/2023 2:20:00 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Wallace T.

Here are some of the primary characteristics of Western Christianity (that stand in sharp distinction from Eastern Orthodox Christian views) that I will use to define it:

Western Christianity has assimilated much of Hellenistic philosophy/thought. Oddly enough, the opposite charge is often made. However, close study of philosophy and history will reveal that Eastern Christians almost immediately began challenging Hellenistic philosophy and created a distinctly Christian philosophy, while due to historical and linguistic circumstances, much of Hellenistic thought and knowledge of the Greek language was lost in the West for some time and only rediscovered later, and was adopted uncritically by many theologians (cf. Scholasticism). For more information on this, please read Jaroslav Pelikan’s outstanding work published through Yale University Press entitled Christianity and Classical Culture: The Metamorphosis of Natural Theology in the Christian Encounter with Hellenism. The implications of this point affect every other point of difference.
Western Christians believe that mankind has inherited some form of original sin from Adam and Eve that includes an inheritance of guilt. There is a wide spectrum within Western Christianity concerning this issue, but generally it is held that man is depraved to some extent and will go to hell because of ‘original sin’ if one is not ‘saved.’ Death is thus viewed as a form of punishment inflicted on mankind because of sin, and ‘hell’ is a place of intentional, conscience punishment by God (or complete separation from him, which is intended as a punishment).
Western Christians believe in a juridicial atonement, that is, God’s wrath had to be propitiated by a perfect sacrifice: Jesus Christ. Western Christians generally believe that someone has to be punished in order to satisfy divine justice. In other words, mankind deserves to be punished but Jesus gets punished for us.
Western Christians discuss (forensic) soteriology as an isolated issue within theology (as distinct but related to anthropology, Christology and the theology of the Godhead), and focus on the ordo salutis (which often defines the primary contentions between various Western Christian groups).


113 posted on 02/02/2023 2:29:18 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Wallace T.

And that’s just a beginning.


114 posted on 02/02/2023 2:29:46 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Wallace T.

More good stuff on this forum.

The two churches approach theology differently. The East takes an apophatic approach to theology while the West a cataphatic one (this is somewhat of an unfair caricature as both groups take both approaches, and Eastern Orthodox generally balance both ways of doing theology - but again, these are broad caricatures). This represents a fundamental difference in how God may be approached intellectually. In the East, theology begins with the premise that God is unknowable in his essence, but we can encounter him through his energies. It is thus impossible for finite creatures to make cataphatic statements about their infinite Creator. Thus theology is something that the East does, it is not an abstract field of study. The purity of the nous that has been attained by the theologian is vital in the task of theology. Having advanced degrees and knowledge does not make one a theologian, but rather the one who prays is rightly called a theologian in the East, and his or her journey in theosis is directly proportional to his or her ability to ‘understand’/’experience’ theology, which is an encounter with God himself (as opposed to merely studying a topic; cf. theoria). The West largely approaches theology cataphatically within a Scholastic framework. It would not be fair to deny that the West has had theologians in the Eastern sense of the word, but the West generally labels these individuals as ‘mystics,’ while in the East all theology is mystical.


115 posted on 02/02/2023 2:32:04 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Wallace T.

The East views salvation as the process of theosis, and thus the Incarnation is the central event in redemptive history. The West views salvation through a multitude of singular events within the ordo salutis, and the crucifixion is generally seen as the central event (although some Protestants would argue that the resurrection is the central event). In Eastern Orthodoxy (as well as in Roman Catholicism and Arminian Protestantism), salvation is synergistic, while in much of (Calvinist-influenced) Protestantism it is monergistic.

The East believes that the central tenet of Western theology is that Western Christianity considers God to be the real cause of all evil - regardless of whether or not Western theologians acknowledge this position or not (some staunch Calvinists admit this). Obviously many Western Christians would disagree. Eastern Orthodox Christians therefore have no need of justifying God (cf. theodicy). In Eastern Orthodoxy, evil is the estrangement from God who is life. Thus death is evil. However, most Western Christians teach that death is a punishment from God, although some Protestants consider death to be ‘natural’. Either way, since God is the Creator of all things, the West necessarily believes that God is the real cause of death. They also apply this to the soul, so that God is also the cause of spiritual death for mankind (by punishing mankind in hell). As Fr. Kalamiros explains,

The ‘God’ of the West is an offended and angry God, full of wrath for the disobedience of men, who desires in His destructive passion to torment all humanity unto eternity for their sins, unless He receives an infinite satisfaction for His offended pride. What is the Western dogma of salvation? Did not God kill God in order to satisfy His pride, which the Westerners euphemistically call justice? And is it not by this infinite satisfaction that He deigns to accept the salvation of some of us? What is salvation for Western theology? Is it not salvation from the wrath of God? Do you see, then, that Western theology teaches that our real danger and our real enemy is our Creator and God? Salvation, for Westerners, is to be saved from the hands of God!


116 posted on 02/02/2023 2:34:09 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Wallace T.

“..closer to Lutheran consubstantiation than RC transubstantiation”

For us, it is simply the mysteries.
We are eastern.

Hoping honoraryserb can add to this in a better way..


117 posted on 02/02/2023 2:42:23 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

Russia takes the Great Patriotic War very, very seriously! The victory parade every year is a constant reminder. Most Americans are ignorant and uncaring about WW2 and there certainly aren’t any commemorative parades.


118 posted on 02/02/2023 3:39:03 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

Exactly.


119 posted on 02/02/2023 3:41:44 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Honorary Serb

Oops. Ping to above posts.


120 posted on 02/02/2023 3:42:28 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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