Live thread. Memphis Police release Tyre Nichols Video. Warning Graphic

Memphis.gov ^ | 27 JAN 2023 | City of Memphis

[Responsibility2nd]

Very incomplete story

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I don’t know anything more than what I’ve read. And in that article I read the cops have been out to his place many times. 13 times.

If this is true, then he is a repeat offender. Or I should say was. A troublemaker; someone well known by the cops.

If this is the case, then his luck finally ran out.

[Paul R.]

Good points. The Memphis Police Dept. leadership may be in real trouble, and deservedly so, if the report that at least one of these guys had a history of going seriously overboard pans out.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

I just finished watching all four videos in their entirety. The suspect resisted arrest, temporarily eluded custody, and then continued resisting once he was apprehended again. The responding officers were poorly trained and were not capable of controlling the suspect. They sprayed each other with OC gas, improperly deployed a Taser, and used a baton on prohibited areas of the suspect's body. After the suspect was in custody, the officers acted as though they were completely unaware that they had done anything wrong. Clearly some excessive force was used, but I've seen much worse in police videos.

Everyone commenting on this should watch the videos carefully. The phrase "Gimmie yo' hands" was shouted dozens of times and the suspect refused to comply. I feel sympathy for the dead man and his family, but this is now the present quality level of law enforcement in many of our large metropolitan areas. It looks to me as if these recordings were over-hyped and released on a Friday evening to achieve maximum riot inducing effect. As more and more qualified law enforcement officers move to careers in other fields, we will all be left with more brutish and poorly trained police like the the ones in this incident. The only thing worse will be the lack of policing that will result from us eventually firing them.

[Widget Jr]

+1.

[Lee Enfield]

When I worked as a detention officer I was involved in a number of “takedowns”. If five big guys have to beat a slight suspect to cuff him it is because they want to. He could have been cuffed with far less effort. I’ve seen it, I’ve done it. There is no reason for this to have gone the way it did.

[Mozzafiato]

Everyone commenting on this should watch the videos carefully. The phrase "Gimmie yo' hands" was shouted dozens of times and the suspect refused to comply.

I’m sorry but in a 5 on 1 situation it doesn’t matter if he was complying or not…they should’ve been able to restrain him in seconds. Every one of those cops were bigger than Tyre Nichols.

[21twelve]

You can take the monkey out of the jungle, but...

It really did look like the typical gang beat down with a bunch of thugs on one guy, kicks to the head, etc. I’d bet that unlike with George Floyd, these guys weren’t following police protocol.

[Paul R.]

but I've seen much worse in police videos.

Well, if that sort of thing is going on to any significant degree, and it certainly gets hugely viewed, it's no wonder the "flight" instinct came to the fore of Nichols mind...

Even without that, in my ruralish neck-o-the-woods we almost daily have flight-from-police instances. Nobody gets seriously hurt unless somebody pulls a weapon on the cops, or a car crashes.

[Paul R.]

Even your average 3-5 bar bouncers handle takedowns better. Except, that is, the guys who take the job because they like getting in brawls and beating people up.

[Wonder Warthog]

YouTube has made the video private...

[carton253]

No. I don’t care if they went to his house 130 times, what those cops did was flat out wrong. They murdered him...and the fact that this thread is filled with justification for that action and also filled with victim blame is a travesty. Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good. A man died at the hands of 5 rogue cops who beat him to death because they could. End of story.

[Elsie]

Can you IMAGINE the damage these 'protesters' would cause if the Five were WHITE??

[Moose4]

I watched Donut Operator’s livestream on Youtube to see the videos. Donut is an ex-Spartanburg SC cop and SWAT team member who made some pretty good points. They were screaming at him to roll over onto his stomach while one of them had his left arm pinned in a position where he couldn’t roll over. They were slinging OC spray around like Febreze after a fart, which he noted was really only ever used by his department to deter aggressive dogs or break up a crowd, NOT used on a suspect where officers would be rolling around on the ground with him. So they wound up spraying themselves and each other.

There’s no way that four or five big burly 200+ pound cops would be unable to restrain one skinny suspect. But they weren’t really even trying. Between all the pepper spray and the incredibly poor technique and training, they just went feral and beat the hell out of the guy. One cop, after OC-spraying *himself*, came running back in and dropped a running soccer kick straight to the suspect’s head. And after all that and they finally got him cuffed, they proceed to render no aid to him for an extended period of time. EMS that arrived didn’t even look like they were particularly interested in helping Tyre out.

Basically, you couldn’t get a room temperature IQ out of those cops if you combined all five of them. That wasn’t an arrest, it was a gang jumping from five subhuman power-tripping thugs who somehow got through whatever passes for a police academy in Memphis. I hope they enjoy getting “turnt out” in prison because that’s where they belong. This was actually worse than the Rodney King beating because King was resisting with violence, Tyre wasn’t (yes he was not obeying commands but he was also getting conflicted commands shouted at him and was getting repeatedly sprayed).

I’m pro-cop for the most part but this was completely inexcusable.

}:-)4

[DCBryan1]

RE: 403 Perfect reply. I think the 2nd degree murder was over-charge except for ASP baton cop. They’ll all plea down and do a few years. ASP cop, if proven he did fatal blow may do ALOT longer.

[DCBryan1]

RE 404: good analysis. Right there with you.

[DCBryan1]

RE: all local law enforcement officers are but a representation of the people in the community they work for. True. It has the depressing ramifications of —— “The government you elect is the government you deserve.” —Thomas Jefferson.

This is how it will turn out.

<<<---at fault
Memphis Mayor Strickland-DemocRAT

<<<---NOT at fault
Memphis Council Chairman-DemocRAT
Memphis City Council-Mostly DemocRAT <<<---five (5) at fault

<<<---NOT at fault>
Memphis Police Chief-DemocRAT

<<<---three (3) at fault
Memphis Police Dept Command Staff-mostly DemocRAT

<<<---NOT at fault
Shelby Co. Mayor-DemocRAT

<<<---NOT at fault
Shelby County Judge-DemocRAT

<<<---NOT at fault
Shelby Co. Sheriff-DemocRAT

<<<---at fault
Steve Mulroy - District Attorney-DemocRAT.

<<<--- 15? 16? at fault
MPD Scorpion Unit-mostly DemocRAT.

<<<---his fault too
TN Governor Lee-Republican

<<<-----NOT his fault, Nope!

Letzgo, Brandon-demeniacRAT

<<<---HERE IS THE CULPRIT!
President Donald J. Trump

Because of THIS:

and definately because of this:

[Moose4]

One other thing Donut mentioned that I hadn’t heard...apparently most or all of these officers were from something in the Memphis PD called the “Scorpion Team.” Sounds like one of those anti-gang “street teams” a lot of urban departments have, otherwise known as “jump-out boys.” They’re the ones rolling around in vans and unmarked cars who get deployed to handle drugs and gang issues a lot of the time. They don’t normally do simple traffic stops for reckless driving like this case. They roll up hard on drug dealers and gang-bangers and shock-and-awe them into custody.

Something tells me these goons let that go to their heads and they thought they were some kind of supercops, combine that with basically a license for violence (look who they’re dealing with, after all) and them all being dumber than a bag of hammers and you get this. I think the LAPD had a similar problem with some of their gang units many years ago. New Orleans has also had a massive problem with corrupt black cops in the past.

}:-)4

[DCBryan1]

If the ‘rules’ are to beat cuffed people to death over reckless driving, it might be time to consider ditching ‘civilization’ and the ‘rules’ that come with it

"Formerly we suffered from crime. Now we suffer from laws."- Publius Cornelius Tacitus, The Annals of Rome, circa 100 A.D.

Also mentioned in the Downfall of Rome

[PerConPat]

Clearly some excessive force was used, but I've seen much worse in police videos.

Just curious...Were any of the apprehended in the videos you saw killed?

[caww]

It was all bad....they were obviously ‘wired up before’ they took him out of the car....then they clearly beat him to death.

So where were those cops and what were they doing before pulling him over???