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When May a Robot Kill? New DOD Policy Tries to Clarify
https://www.nextgov.com/ ^ | JANUARY 26, 2023 | By Patrick Tucker,

Posted on 01/27/2023 12:21:53 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: SaveFerris

Well, look at the “Terminator” or “Matrix” movies.


21 posted on 01/27/2023 12:58:02 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: cgbg

I don’t think decepticons would take so well to that. Just ask the autobots.


22 posted on 01/27/2023 12:59:22 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Lonesome in Massachussets wrote: “Patriot, as deployed in the Gulf War I, had certain modes where it would automatically engage, ,,”

HAWK had automatic modes as well.
BTW, what about Fire and Forget missiles with lock-on after launch?


23 posted on 01/27/2023 1:21:28 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: No name given

Yep


24 posted on 01/27/2023 1:32:21 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Tell It Right

Yep


25 posted on 01/27/2023 1:32:39 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: DugwayDuke

A lead slug is fire and forget. I don’t know if HAWK ever autonomously engaged and killed a target. Once a Patriot has been launched there is no way to recall it. It does “track via missile”, the missile’s receiver can receive echos from the ground radar illuminations, but it also has its own transmitter, and can probably reacquire without ground radar. The HAWK used to be a beam rider (that may have changed) and required ground illumination to home on the target.


26 posted on 01/27/2023 1:32:56 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: higgmeister

ya... and soon there after the enemy has all the tech it needs by reverse engineering the passive robot that followed rule no 1...


27 posted on 01/27/2023 1:37:12 PM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: 9YearLurker
"whose last book, in the early ‘70s, was about environmentalism and the destructive power of overpopulation."

2003


28 posted on 01/27/2023 2:34:41 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: TexasGator

FWIW, Asimov died in 1992.


29 posted on 01/27/2023 4:19:39 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: SaveFerris

https://youtu.be/EjyOfTEeNHA


30 posted on 01/27/2023 4:27:45 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: RomanSoldier19
There was never a snowball's chance in hell DoD was going to get invested in robots and not make them autonomous and give 'em guns.

I had a conversation with some guys from Talon almost 20 years ago and way back then they said Big Army already had given them a contract to make their tracked EOD robot (below) autonomous and mount an M-60 machinegun on it.

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31 posted on 01/27/2023 5:05:01 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: 9YearLurker
Don’t forget that Asimov was a Navy intel guy whose last book, in the early ‘70s, was about environmentalism and the destructive power of overpopulation.

What book are you referring to?   I don't remember a book like that?

For that matter prominently linked in his "Robots and Empire" novels was the Galactic Capital Planet, Trantor, that was literally one city that encased the whole planet, extended miles deep and had a population of 20 billion.   That didn't make the case for environmentalism and the destructive power of overpopulation.

32 posted on 01/27/2023 10:44:45 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: PapaBear3625
The "I Robot" film was a bunch of bunk, not canon so to speak.

The books apparently did in a sense let robots "take control" to a very small degree but from afar.   They never let humans know that they had been influenced and upheld the Zeroth Law.

“A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.”
The Robots determined that letting humans know they had been influenced could cause harm.
33 posted on 01/27/2023 10:59:30 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Isaac_Asimov#Environment_and_population


34 posted on 01/28/2023 2:48:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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