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West risks war with Russia over escalating military aid
Irish Times ^ | 1/25/23 | Geoffrey Roberts

Posted on 01/26/2023 1:15:13 PM PST by JonPreston

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To: BenLurkin
The Ukraine is the victim in all this

100%

21 posted on 01/26/2023 1:29:32 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: FreshPrince

What’s hard to grasp is that Russia is losing and losing bad according to reports and Ukraine is gaining ground by the day. Why does it need tanks and planes which it never got from us before? I understand that you fight full to end the war but this is not how it is being presented in the press and by world leaders. It is being presented as these tanks and possible planes are needed to keep the Russians at bay.


22 posted on 01/26/2023 1:30:02 PM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: JonPreston; BenLurkin
The people of Ukraine is the victim in all this 100%

Fixed it.

23 posted on 01/26/2023 1:31:35 PM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: BenLurkin
Ukraine...Led into war by a corrupt regime, invaded by an evil empire

Only the second part is true "invaded by an evil empire"

24 posted on 01/26/2023 1:37:05 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: JonPreston

Plenty of Russians are dying too. Not that you care.

And I’ve repeatedly asked for Russia to end this war, depart Ukraine, and restore the peace.


25 posted on 01/26/2023 1:37:45 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: JonPreston
Not unlike pro Hitler propaganda in 1940.

Putin’s Hitler's restraint in the face of massive western American military aid to Ukraine Great Britain and France has been remarkable but his forbearance may not be boundless.

26 posted on 01/26/2023 1:37:56 PM PST by Round Earther
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To: amnestynone
It would be practically the rest of the world against Russia.

Yep. The rest of the world, except for Brazil, India, China, South Africa, Saudi Arabia and some other places.

27 posted on 01/26/2023 1:38:03 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

You forgot Russia’s biggest allies, North Korea and Iran. A powerful and just duo.


28 posted on 01/26/2023 1:39:14 PM PST by Portnoy001
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To: Salman

The US would be doing the same if the situation were reversed.


29 posted on 01/26/2023 1:39:31 PM PST by erlayman
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To: amnestynone

Well said


30 posted on 01/26/2023 1:39:33 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: JonPreston

Ukraine is not in our interest. If anyone should be carrying Ukraine it should be the EU.

But, the truth is that this WWIII isn’t about Ukraine at all, it is a USA concocted incubator for WWIII and it worked. Here we are.


31 posted on 01/26/2023 1:39:59 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: MeganC
And I’ve repeatedly asked for Russia to end this war, depart Ukraine, and restore the peace.

The big lie of this statement - there was no "peace." It was a smaller war in Donbas, still supported by the US and NATO, kicked off by a coup in 2014, where John McCain passed out cookies.

32 posted on 01/26/2023 1:40:25 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

“Yep. The rest of the world, except for Brazil, India, China, South Africa, Saudi Arabia and some other places.”

Yeah, but none of them will join Russia.


33 posted on 01/26/2023 1:40:33 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: JonPreston

Sounds like he is salivating to have a nuclear exchange. Sick people on this site lately.


34 posted on 01/26/2023 1:42:30 PM PST by Codeflier (My voting days are over. Let it burn...give the people what they want good and hard.)
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To: JonPreston

Sure, let’s let a plank named Nigel advise the world to call Putin’s bluff.
I mean, what could go wrong?


35 posted on 01/26/2023 1:43:38 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: JonPreston

We are smart enough to use big words, aren’t we, TrollPreston? And, we are medically educated, as well!


36 posted on 01/26/2023 1:44:05 PM PST by exinnj
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To: MeganC

NATO member Poland and the three NATO Baltic state members regard Russia as an immediate threat, and all the more so if Russia subdues Ukraine. Putin and the Russian Foreign Ministry have made numerous threats against all of them, before and after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.


37 posted on 01/26/2023 1:44:59 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: MeganC

Yep, the only risk here is to Russia, not to the West. Which is why they won’t be “escalating”. They know all too well that it would be the end of any illusion still remaining that Russia is a world power.


38 posted on 01/26/2023 1:45:26 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Portnoy001

Its the sort of arrogance so burned into DC neocon globalist skulls - that we can scorn countries that add up to about half the world’s population to pursue a useless war as far as possible from US borders (which are still wide open, by the way)

It that sort of arrogance which is why the US Neocon Empire is eventually going to have its ass handed to it.

I wouldn’t mind, except this is my country too, and we will all suffer for it.


39 posted on 01/26/2023 1:46:14 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Correct.
There has been no peace in Ukraine since the Nuland-planned coup in 2013/2014.


40 posted on 01/26/2023 1:47:17 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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