Skip to comments.Report: McCarthy Assured Manchin No Cuts to Social Security, Medicare in Debt Ceiling Resolution
Posted on 01/25/2023 6:03:37 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy told Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) that Republcans would not make cuts to social security or Medicare to offset the debt ceiling during a meeting on Tuesday, according to Punch Bowl News co-founder Jake Sherman.
Sherman noted in a tweet that Manchin also “hopes” President Joe Biden will negotiate with Republicans, who want spending cuts in exchange for their help raising the debt ceiling.
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In Swamp-speak, a “cut” is when you decrease the increase a little.
>> What is manchin getting out of this???
Cut the DOJ/FBI, CDC et.al., HLS, Depts of Edumascation and Energy for starters.
This is what is frustrating. Why are the republicans making concessions to this clown? This makes manchin look like he is in charge “protecting social security.” He should be the one begging republicans to limit how far they will push. And why are republicans trying to help him save his seat for the next election?
After we’ve sent approximately 52 quadrillion to Ukraine, cutting Americans’ Social Security and Medicare could be the last straw.
This makes sense from the viewpoint that NOT A DIME of income taxes was EVER paid towards the national debt principle - it was all thrown away as usury interest to cabal banksters, from 1989 thru now. Spending only increased the amount borrowed from these banksters.
OTOH, SS and medicare are separate amounts from American paychecks earmarked for a specific purpose - retirement and health care. If congress stole from these accounts over the years, the onus is on them to account from their thievery.
from 1789 thru now.
“Why are the republicans making concessions to this clown?”
It was TRUMP who told the Republicans not to use the debt ceiling fight to cut Social Security and Medicare. Trump was right, and if McCarthy is following what Trump advised, good for him. And I don’t care if Manchin also called for the same thing Trump dod - the GOP would be shooting itself in the abdomen to demand Social Security cuts, and even more so if they closed down the govt in order to get those wildly unpopular cuts
Anybody who wants the GOP to cut Social Security must be OK with the Democrats winning all elections from now on
First things first:
87,000 IRS goons.
Then, next time, 87,000 more, which might be a good start.
Well, that argument is problematic in several ways, the Republicans are not talking about cutting Social Security for people who are already living on it. So again, we’re allowing the liberals to find the argument. They’re talking about modifying it, so future generations and people who are young enough will have a different system that accomplishes the same thing but will be sustainable. At least that’s the way I understand it. The bottom line is it doesn’t matter what Trump said, most Americans did not hear him, because the media said Joe Manchin talked the Republicans out of cutting Social Security. The Republicans should’ve been out in front of this to prevent Manchin from taking his victory lap.
Sounds like you favor cutting Social Security, and you’re just using euphemisms. Then you can’t blame the Democrats for pointing that out. When Republicans take that position They - the Dems - are not lying, they’re quoting
Euphemisms? Please explain how the government pays social security when it reaches into its pocket and pulls out lint? No one is talking any cutting social security for those on it. And your reply perfectly encapsulates my reply.
Yep. And they aren't going to decrease the increase. Not even a little.
“t? No one is talking any cutting social security for those on it”
But you want it cut for those who aren’t yet on it. Fine, you can support that, but don’t call the Dems liars when they simply quote Republicans who take this position.
A lot of Republicans have called for raising the Social Security age to 70. That’s a cut of 100 percent for those who are suddenly rendered too young to and who will be get it in their late 60s
By the way, if people have to wait five more years to start collecting from a program they’ve paid into since their 20s, what do many of them do to make ends meet in their late 60s? Who’s hiring people in their 60s these days? Remember, the vast majority of Americans don’t have govt pensions like the GOP establishment critters who so casually talk about denying them Social Security until they’re 70.
Smart politicians will leave Social Security alone.
Medicare which is socialized medicine and doesn’t have the tax structure or financing is a bigger problem. Much of that problem is the fat and bloat in a very expensive and inefficient health care sector.
The FICA tax is the 2nd biggest receipt for the Federal Government with the income tax being # 1.(Corporate tax is #3)
Shouldn’t budget cutters start with discretionary spending?
Maybe look at the Federal workforce and start cutting salaries and pensions, while freezing hiring for all departments & agencies.
Nope, we need to be retarded and go after some little old lady that made poor wages her whole life, doesn’t have a government pension, never really had enough to invest because she covered her bills & obligations.
They shouldn’t cut these programs (we paid for) while spending like they had a stolen Credir Card.
But Manchin is in the Senate.
Manchin didn’t vote on McCarthy.
And Two months ago, Manchin was saying the only way to stop Inflation was to pass a crazy multi Trillion Dem Goodies Bill.
This story is more than odd.
I hate to be the one to bring you this news, but the SS "Trust Fund" is nothing but an accounting fiction. The money was spent from the general fund long ago and any repayment is going to be from general taxes.
SS Taxes are given to the US Treasury which issues special bonds to the the SS Administration and then the Treasury commingles the money with all of the other money it has and spends it.
Imagine if I were walking down the street and had $20 in my left pocket. I take the $20 out of my left pocket and put it in my right pocket, and then write an IOU saying my right pocket owes my left pocket $20. I hold onto that IOU and spend the $20. BUT, I then claim that I still have $20 in assets because I have that IOU. This is exactly how the SS Trust Fund works. And the guys who thought up this scheme are long dead, but used the money to buy Dem votes.
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