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German FM Says the Quiet Part: “We Are Fighting a War with Russia”
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 01/25/2023 | Richard Abelson

Posted on 01/25/2023 12:37:20 PM PST by thegagline

Coming on the heels of Germany’s announcement to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, German foreign minister Annalena Baerbock has declared “we are fighting a war with Russia” at a meeting of the European Council.

“We have to do more also on tanks,” Baerbock said. “But the most important, crucial part is that we do it together, and we do not do the blame game in Europe, because we are fighting a war against Russia, and not against each other.” NATO countries have so far scrupulously avoided insinuating that they are direct participants in the regional border conflict over ethnic Russian territories in Eastern Ukraine.

42-year-old Baerbock is known for her gaffes and child-like, garbled speech. Still, she is the most popular politican in Germany, despite the fact she was found to have fudged her CV and received her Master’s degree from the London School of Economics after only one year, despite not having earned a bachelor’s degree. Her master’s thesis remains lost. She received a €40,000 scholarship from the Green Party foundation 2009-2012 to attend LSE.

*** Baerbock patron George Soros also attended London School of Economics, which is part of the Open Society University Network. Baerbock is also a member of the European Council on Foreign Relations, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations’ Atlantic Bridge, the German Marshall Fund, and currently a Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum. ***

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4threich; bloggers; eussr; fakenews; fourthreich; nato; russia; ukraine; undeclaredwar; war; whatconstitution
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To: Starboard

What speaks volumes about how corrupt a country is, is the rankings.

Russia is the most corrupt nation in Europe and of course more corrupt than Ukraine in world rankings.


61 posted on 01/25/2023 4:43:36 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Starboard

All their best got killed in the war.
Leftovers and Russian rapes made the next generation.


62 posted on 01/25/2023 4:56:29 PM PST by rellic
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Can’t shoot looters.
That is discrimination
Black people are a superior race
put down by every other race.


63 posted on 01/25/2023 5:01:30 PM PST by rellic
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To: Jumper
As I said, Russia has made some gains but at a far higher cost than last summer's offensive, which fizzled. In the recent attacks in Zaporizhia, they took one town out of the several they attacked and were beaten back from the rest and were surprised by the beating they got. It would be truly miraculous if Russia never made any gains.

Pity RT is gone. You must miss the convenience of one-stop shopping for all your Russian propaganda needs.

64 posted on 01/25/2023 5:30:32 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

I’ll wait for your appology in about two weeks:)


65 posted on 01/25/2023 5:36:42 PM PST by Jumper ( )
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To: Jumper
You guys have been predicting the victory of the Great and Glorious Republic of Russiastan for almost a year now.

I'm not saying Ukraine isn't going to lose some battles: clearly it will. But it isn't going to lose the war. If I were to guess, at some point the Russians will be pushed back close to their Feb 2022 positions and serious negotiations will begin. All the Ukrainians have to do is break through with enough force and mobility. Russian forces don't have the ability to react fast enough once that happens.

The important point is that Russia will have gained nothing from its current conflict.

66 posted on 01/25/2023 5:45:44 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: thegagline

And have been since obamas Syrian war. Fixed it.


67 posted on 01/25/2023 6:05:40 PM PST by momincombatboots (QEphesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: thegagline
https://www.indianpunchline.com/ukraine-wars-first-anniversary-and-beyond/

The internal western assessment is that the war is going badly for Ukraine. Spiegel reported last week that Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service (BND) “informed security politicians of the Bundestag in a secret meeting this week that the Ukrainian army is currently losing a three-digit number of soldiers every day in battles.”

The BND told the German MPs that it is particularly “alarmed by the high losses of the Ukrainian army in the battle for the strategically important city of Bakhmut” (in Donetsk) and warned that “the Russians’ capture of Bakhmut would have significant consequences, as it would allow Russia to make further forays into the interior of the country.”

68 posted on 01/25/2023 7:44:46 PM PST by Kazan
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To: pierrem15

Ukraine has faced Putin’s Special Operation that had 160,000 soldiers (90K combat/60K support). The Duma or Ruskie Govt is going to authorize the entire Armed Forces of Russia to relieve those involved in the past year. Russia has 675,000 combat/support troops designated for offensive operations coming from Russia proper with a combat reserve of about 260,000 for either contingencies or to push forwar a breakout. Additionally, Belarus and Russia have integrated their Armed Forces - estimated 80,000 to 150,000 soldiers are designated for a push along the Uke/Polish boarder.

Ukraine has been pushed to brink. There are reports of a Russian break through on the Uke Defensive Backmuf anchors. There are now estimates that Backmuf may only hold for another 3 weeks tops, expectation of 10-20 days.

This conflict to date has pushed the Uke air defenses to brink as well. There are reports that both sides have been flying choppers in close support on the front lines - because missiles are being held back for the Uke S300s.

On the One Year Anniversary of the Special Operation (Russia is big on anniversaries), Ukraine will not be facing 160,000 soldiers - they are going to face 675,000. Ukraine can expect to see the full weight of Russian Air Power, absent to date. Should a front open up via Belarus, Uke’s may find themselves cut off from Poland and the “underground railway” that makes the NATO equipment deliveries shut down.

Ukraine has been forced into a war of attrition this first year. Artillery duels do most of the heavy lifting in breaking defensive positions. Also, since last September/October when Russia pulled back into better defendable positons and Ukrainian’s claimed their Victories, Ukraine has sent 25,000 or more to deaths in attacks against the Ruskie defensive lines.

NATO sees it clearly now and they are sending “token” equipment in the form of tanks which comprise in total from all sources (Britan, US, Poland/GE) about a Brigade of tanks. This amount probably won’t do much to change the course of the War in February going forward.

The use of drones have made tanks hard to protect and tank tracks are “dead” giveaway for Artillery or the S31s in Belarus that are 5th Gen AC.

Russia is producing 3.4M 156 arty rounds annually, and they could probably push that number up to maybe 5.5M which is enough to fire 10,000-15,000 artillery rounds a day on Ukraine. Russia hasn’t used up the War Reserve Stocks yet so Ukraine can never match Russia Tube for Tube or round for round. This war has been Artillery 24/7 to date.

Russia is going to commit 4X the combat forces in February in Ukraine.

Russia will have the 3d Combined Field Army (500,000 mem) trained and ready to fight by August and six weeks ago Russia began the startup of the 4th Combined Field Army (500,000).

Short of WWIII there isn’t a damn thing the US can do to prevent Russia from DeNAZIfication of the Ukrainian State. Zenlesky is frequently seen with troops with NAZI insigna in his entrouge. While he says Russia will be pushed out of Crimea and all Ukraine.... One.five million Russian troops says by Christmas Zenlensky will be in Florida and a negotiated settlement ensuring Russia has her way.

If you try to find this information for yourself it is out there. Different NATO ministers or their equilavent of our Sec of the Army/AF/Navy are saying different parts in their daily briefings.


69 posted on 01/25/2023 8:36:07 PM PST by Jumper ( )
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Now the cat is out of the Bag—how soon before the following starts? 1. A New Draft for all young people 18 to 24 in America. 2. Scrap drives for war materials. 3. Round ups of Russian Nationals or anyone who opposes war. 4. Patriotic Movies, Top Gun 3.0! 5. USA Flags everywhere. 6. Jobs, jobs, jobs. 7. All factories close to build tanks and robot soldiers. 8. Rationing of goods, like eggs, milk, meat, wheat. 9. Martial Law—Looters shot—as enemy agents. 10. War Bonds taken automatically from paychecks. It will be glorious—until it isn’t.

That was the WWII script. Now we have ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads, no need for all that, we'll all be dead.

70 posted on 01/25/2023 8:45:03 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: kiryandil
Beccy Heindlick appears to have missed her calling on the Ukrainian or Russian military general staffs

$120 billion so far, and we don't know where the money went.

71 posted on 01/25/2023 8:46:32 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: kiryandil
The Duran was around long, long before you started spewing your neoconned swill on FR, froggie.

"Zipper" is not a French name. I think you meant to respond to pierrem15.

72 posted on 01/25/2023 8:54:38 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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You fragged me when you meant to frag the froggie. LOL


73 posted on 01/25/2023 8:59:05 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: zipper
"Zipper" is not a French name. I think you meant to respond to pierrem15.

Yes, I did mean to respond to pierrefrogteen.

I sent you a private message of apology previously, but I'll apologize again here. :)

74 posted on 01/25/2023 10:25:13 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: zipper
You fragged me when you meant to frag the froggie. LOL

LOLOL!!

I like your style. :)

75 posted on 01/25/2023 10:25:47 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Jumper
Russia has claimed it raised 300,000 conscripts in the Fall call-up. The US thinks at most its 250,00 and most of them are ill trained and ill equipped and manning new defensive positions dug in behind the current lines.

Troops are being rotated in and out of Belarus for training, but no huge buildup of the size you describe is detected. A northern invasion of the western part of Ukraine is still impassable because of the Pripet marshes. And I still rate the chance of Belarus' participation in a new assault as fairly low. Maybe Lukashenko will send some units to fight with Russian units in the south like Franco sent divisions to Russia, but that's probably all. The Russian army has also already stripped Belarus of most of its armor.

As far as the Russian Air Force goes, it seems to be in the same condition as the Russian army: poorly trained and poorly equipped. And Russia isn't "holding back." The problem is the combat radius. Russian aircraft have to fly low to avoid Ukrainian air defense. Doing so with a combat load severely reduces the radius of the aircraft, and that severely limits the bases from which they can operate and thus the number of sorties. This problem will get worse if Ukraine acquires or develops longer-range munitions or drones.

My view is that Putin has far more limited goals: grab the remaining parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts and hold onto the parts of Zaporizhia and the southern Kherson oblasts linking Crimea to Russia. He is simply trying to inflict enough punishment on the Ukrainian Army and Ukrainian civilian population as he can to force Ukraine to accept this.

Putin has trouble equipping and training the troops he's already raised, so I think the figures you are citing are fantasies, at least in the time frame you are discussing.

76 posted on 01/26/2023 6:31:54 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: mewzilla; zipper

Right, and right again.

However, I bet you a dollar that those on this board, who are still fighting the World Wars, won’t understand.

Some people are utterly clueless, and always will be. Sad but true.


77 posted on 01/26/2023 8:14:21 AM PST by Menes
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To: Honorary Serb

From your lips to God’s ear!

But have you read in the article: “Baerbock’s patron Soros...Atlantic Bridge...”?

Telling, isn’t it? BTW, guess what happens if Baerbock accidentally swallows a fly?
Then, she will have more brains in her stomach than in her head. Yes, she really is THAT stupid... :-(


78 posted on 01/26/2023 8:20:05 AM PST by Menes
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To: rellic

Yawn.


79 posted on 01/26/2023 8:24:43 AM PST by Menes
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To: thegagline

German foreign minister Annalena Baerbock has declared “we are fighting a war with Russia” at a meeting of the European Council.==

She is just honest to admit it. Because others shy to do it.

It is very motivation thing for Russian people. If Germany came to war with Russia and hits very deep instincts in their souls.

The Great Patriotic War number 2.

People will let Putin to do anything to win this war.


80 posted on 01/26/2023 11:29:08 AM PST by nickfrost1
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