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Leopard 2 A7V heavy battle tank


1 posted on 01/25/2023 4:51:54 AM PST by tlozo
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Sweden’s Defense Minister Pål Jonson stated this morning that Sweden might send its Stridsvagn 122 tanks (modernized Leopard 2A5s) to Ukraine.
2 posted on 01/25/2023 4:53:44 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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Good! But the Ukrainian must maintain and repair them. This is a test.


4 posted on 01/25/2023 4:54:41 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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BOOM!

Tanks gone -- just like the 1000's of tanks the Ukes lost in the last year.


6 posted on 01/25/2023 5:03:36 AM PST by icclearly
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This is the second time Germany has declared war on Russia, and the results will be the same. Germans are so very dopey in matters of war.


9 posted on 01/25/2023 5:10:07 AM PST by JonPreston
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What difference would it make to the war?

Yohann Michel, a research analyst for defense and military affairs at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said such tanks could allow Ukraine to go onto the offensive in the 11-month-old conflict that has been stalemated for months following two key Ukrainian counteroffensives that recaptured areas occupied by Russian forces for months in the northeast and south.

“In this type of conflict, it's just not possible to carry out large-scale offensives without the full variety of armored combat equipment and armored vehicles, and tanks are a part of that," he said. In addition to Main Battle Tanks, or MBTs, like the Leopard 2, others include infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers.

Western deliveries of Leopard 2s could help equip Ukraine with needed high-caliber munitions to replace its own dwindling Soviet-era stockpiles, opening a new avenue for supplies of Western firepower to get to Ukraine, he said.

Raths noted that the Leopard 2 and similar Western tanks are more agile than T-models used by Russia, which can't reverse at speed, for example.

“Imagine a boxer who cannot move freely in the ring, but only in one direction,” he said. “The other boxer, who can move in all directions, has a big advantage and that it is the case with the Leopards.”

Still, even Western MBTs are vulnerable to aerial attacks, or anti-tank infantry while in forests and urban areas, highlighting the importance of anti-aircraft and reconnaissance support, said Raths.

With similar numbers of tanks on both sides, Leopards 2 and similar tanks could give Ukraine the upper hand, especially given the poor tactical performance of Russian troops during the war, he said.

“The Ukrainians shine through creative, dynamic and often very clean warfare,” Raths said. “So it could well be that if Ukraine's operational offensive were to begin, the Russians would have real problems countering it.”

https://www.outlookindia.com/international/explained-what-is-leopard-2-tank-what-difference-would-it-make-to-ukraine-war--news-256197

16 posted on 01/25/2023 5:23:43 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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“If you don’t send MBTs to Ukraine, we’ll blow another one of your pipelines, SUCKA!” - Uncle Sammy (Gravano)


20 posted on 01/25/2023 5:32:11 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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So... Germany is sending tanks to the Azov in Ukraine. Who did Nazi that coming?



24 posted on 01/25/2023 5:39:03 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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27 posted on 01/25/2023 5:56:55 AM PST by The Louiswu (- .-. ..- -- .--. / ..--- ----- ..--- ....-)
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Plus side is that it will be a good field test to see if the German tanks are any more effective than Russian tanks against modern anti-tank weapons.


32 posted on 01/25/2023 6:04:18 AM PST by PAR35
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Have any of these chicken-hawks in the U.S. Congress attempted to explain the end-game of this madness ?

Lindsey and Mitch love these futile, foreign wars, where 100s of thousands are maimed, or die horrible deaths.


43 posted on 01/25/2023 6:25:07 AM PST by BrexitBen
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So the tank weapon systems etc. are that intuitive that one can just hop in and drive away?


44 posted on 01/25/2023 6:25:45 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Germany is still using A7V designation for a modern tank?


48 posted on 01/25/2023 6:33:41 AM PST by KobraKai
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A Battalion consists of from 300 to 1500:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battalion

A company consists of from 80 to 250:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_(military_unit)

Currently Germany has around 800 tanks in its
enventory of which 400 are in storage.
No way even a single battalion of tanks could be
sent from Germany;They do not have that many.

Probably the story should read “company” instead
of battalion. Even fox news sometimes runs with
stories they do not verify. This story is being ran everywhere!

Still Germany is capable of sending at least
300 Leopard tanks if not more. Perhaps that 400 they have
in storage.
This is an escalation of this war for sure and there
are always consequences. Not saying we shouldn’t help but
it will lead to trouble.


49 posted on 01/25/2023 6:34:07 AM PST by harpolemond (And yes. Truth will always set you free; Know This: abortion is passing a child into the fire)
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Do not underestimate the Russian People. When pushed up against the wall they will unleash hell on their enemies. When Hitler betrayed Stalin and Blitzed his way across western Russia, everybody thought it was over for the Soviets. 20 million Russians died. 20 Million! Do you think they have forgotten? What the crowd in Davos wants is the strategic castration of Russia, so that it cannot interfere with the Globalist Cabal. This situation is precipitating a War Economy in Russia. Toward the end of WWII they blew past the Axis in weapons and aircraft production. And now, with ample justification, their propagandists are saying “God is on our side!” They are rebuilding churches and bringing religious studies to their schools. This may be cynical manipulation, but the Russians are a Patriotic and Religious people, who, once energized, will bring that Faith and Love of Coutry to the struggle. The weak, effete, people of the Western powers have neither.


51 posted on 01/25/2023 6:47:26 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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52 posted on 01/25/2023 6:50:37 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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TANKS on OUR southern border, not to Ukraine! Am I alone on this? Defense dept for OUR national defense. Have you all lost your minds?


57 posted on 01/25/2023 7:15:24 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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Just wait until this war starts to spread to other areas of the world. Keep a close eye on U.S. efforts to institute a draft and mobilize our society behind a world war. That will be met with indifference and likely violent opposition. Trying to draft this woke generation will be impossible and the non-woke have been completely alienated by the government. The people that are at war with Russia are the same people that are at war with America. It’s going to be a real cluster.


67 posted on 01/25/2023 7:38:16 AM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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69 posted on 01/25/2023 7:49:13 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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A sequel to “The Guns of August.” It should be called “The Tanks of January.” No happy endings in sight.


71 posted on 01/25/2023 7:53:03 AM PST by JGPhila
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In the first gulf war, our F111 pilots were underutilized. The air bosses started using them for tank plinking. The F111’s would stay up high and get a visual or radar lock on the Iraqi tanks on the ground. Your bomb carrying aircraft, usually an f16 would lob a bomb from about 20 kilometers away. As the bomb went into descent, the F111 would paint the tank with a laser from it’s lantirn pod. Plink, a 250lb or 500lb hit on the top of a tank. That’s what happens to tanks without air superiority. The russians can hang back from the front lines and designate the tanks. probably even designate from the ground.


73 posted on 01/25/2023 7:57:18 AM PST by Waverunner
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