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"Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesman, said the new tank deliveries 'would bring nothing good to the future relations.'"

Meow.

1 posted on 01/24/2023 4:14:57 PM PST by familyop
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How One Of World’s Most Powerful Main Battle Tanks ‘Leopard 2’ Was Decimated By ISIS In Syria

Turkey has been forced to turn to domestic defense companies for upgrades to the Soviet-era tanks. On 24 August 2016, the Turkish military began the operation ‘Euphrates Shield’ (ES) to clear the northern Syrian territory of the ISIS presence.

The cross-border military operation was carried along with Syrian rebel factions of the Free Syrian Army (FSA).

The joint force flushed out the so-called Islamic State (IS) and Kurdish forces who had taken control of the territory. Turkish military campaign carried on successfully until it reached the city of al-Bab, around 40 kilometers east of Aleppo, in December 2016, where the armored vehicles faced a barrage of Daesh and Kurdish missiles.

Turkey had bought one of the best tanks to the battleground – the German Leopard 2A4 – which it had hoped would confront ISIS anti-tank missiles and improvised explosives which had previously destroyed many of the country’s M-60 Patton tanks.

To their surprise, the tanks were unable to stand the adversary firepower with multiple Leopard tanks damaged in the counterfire.

WATCH: US Shoots ‘Drone With A Drone’ Using High Powered Microwaves

86 posted on 01/24/2023 5:14:40 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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Time will tell even with the continuing lying on both sides (if we are allowed to live that long).


99 posted on 01/24/2023 5:29:58 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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More blows of Zelensky by the Brit propaganda outlets.


101 posted on 01/24/2023 5:33:14 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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“would bring nothing good to the future relations”

Methinks that horse is out of the barn, down the street, and around the corner.


119 posted on 01/24/2023 6:22:08 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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Income taxes in Russia are 13%, and they are 18% in Ukraine. Maybe the Ukrainians need to rethink things(?)


129 posted on 01/24/2023 6:48:22 PM PST by The Duke (Never Retreat, Never Surrender!)
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Thanks ain’t any good without the support units behind them.
They need crews, mechanics, transports etc.


132 posted on 01/24/2023 7:35:19 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin.)
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Russia has produced 35,000 of these first rate, man portable ATGMs. And they’re cheap.

They can kill any MBT in the world out to 8,000m.

Syrian “rebels” have killed at least a dozen Turkish Leopard 2s with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet


135 posted on 01/24/2023 8:02:52 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Can't touch this!

Hammer time!

Get those tank drivers some baggy pants!

146 posted on 01/24/2023 8:53:26 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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Our Satanic “government” is reprehensible.

This senseless “war” is costing the US TAXPAYER a fortune, and it’s only going to piss off the Russians even more.

Their anger will only escalate into something more dangerous and destructive.

Keep in mind the Russians are very hard people. They burned their own homes and the city of Moscow itself to disallow Napoleon’s troops from gaining possession of their lands.

This “latest move” is just going to lead to more corrupt AF Ukrainian government creeps stealing our money, resources, and defense materiel, and it’s going to cause a very harsh and destructive response from Russia.

It’s LOSE-LOSE to finance and support the criminals in Ukraine.


148 posted on 01/24/2023 10:08:32 PM PST by Prole
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The naysayers on the value of tanks should check Orxy's tracking of Russian and Ukrainian losses. The raw numbers currently show Russia has lost 3.6x as many tanks and 3.1x as many military vehicles overall. This has been consistent since the war started, when the majority of equipment on both sides is Russian.

Russia is fighting this war badly. If they were fighting smarter than Ukraine they would have won already - a point the pro-Russian posters ignore as much as possible.

Most of the advanced Russian military hardware, the Su-57, T-14 Armata, do not exist in significant numbers. Russia's military equipment is largely where it was when the USSR fell, when US and NATO equipment proved what they could do to Russian tanks in the first Gulf War in the 1990s. The Leopards are modern, up to date tanks. As others have posted, support for Leopard tanks is widely available. What NATO's can spare (and replace) is far better than what Russia can deploy.

152 posted on 01/25/2023 12:47:46 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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So they will get 200 hundred tanks, when will they get there, where are the tank crews to man them coming from. where is the support personnel to keep them running, where is the fuel and spare parts coming from? How many months will it take to train tank crews from Ukraine Army so they can used?

These are just pesky details that no one has thought about or provided answers for.


184 posted on 01/25/2023 7:57:15 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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