Posted on 01/24/2023 6:38:58 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
This weekend, I watched the breaking news reports from Southern California with a mixture of shock, disbelief and anger. On Saturday night, what had been a gathering to celebrate the Lunar New Year in a Los Angeles suburb became the scene of a massacre. By Sunday, President Biden had issued a statement, noting: “While there is still much we don’t know about the motive in this senseless attack, we do know that many families are grieving tonight, or praying that their loved one will recover from their wounds.”
I am from Monterey Park, Calif. I am struggling to process a reality that has become familiar to many Americans: The horror of a mass shooting has come to my hometown. And this diverse, vibrant community will never be the same.
I know the area surrounding the Star Ballroom Dance Studio — the site of the attacks — very well. The church where I made my First Communion is down the street, and the public park where I learned to swim is around the corner.
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There are no coincidences.
Raul’s reaction to this shooting is to disarm more good guys. Mine is to mourn there was no good guy with a gun to stop them.
Well Raul, had citizens been allowed to protect themselves by carrying, the shooter would have been stopped before too much damage was done, OR more likely, he might never had done what he did knowing that people are armed and will fight back, and that he might lose his life before he could take anyone else’s life!
Ever think about that Raul? The old west was a fairly tame period as most people carried and knew how to use guns, and th3 bad guys took a very serious risk committing their crimes
The Culture of Violence in the American West: Myth versus Reality
By Thomas DiLorenzo
September 22, 2010
Contrary to popular perception, the Old West was much more peaceful than American cities are today. The real culture of violence on the frontier during the latter half of the nineteenth century sprang from the U.S. government’s policies toward the Plains Indians.
The Not-So-Wild, Wild West
In a thorough review of the “West was violent” literature, Bruce Benson (1998) discovered that many historians simply assume that violence was pervasive — even more so than in modern-day America — and then theorize about its likely causes. In addition, some authors assume that the West was very violent and then assert, as Joe Franz does, that “American violence today reflects our frontier heritage” (Franz 1969, qtd. in Benson 1998, 98). Thus, an allegedly violent and stateless society of the nineteenth century is blamed for at least some of the violence in the United States today
Society back then hired private groups to enforce laws and protect people in addition to local police or sherrifs and such. People rarely got out of hand knowing that fact. Those that did almost always got stopped fairly quickly via either the sherrifs or the armed groups tracking g them down and putting a stop to their reign of terror.
Let’s also not forget car bombings and rapes in Sweden.
These days, EVERYBODY is Sonny Corleone in their own minds… especially our politicians (actually, THEY see themselves as Vito).
Everybody is a tough guy. Only… they aren’t. They’re just pathetic losers lashing out.
"Do you know how naive you sound, Michael? Presidents and senators don't have men killed."
"Oh. Who's being naive, Kay?"
America’s “distinction” is that we have descended to allowing demented fools, insane perverts and career criminals to rule. That’s why America is a laughingstock. A running joke.
Well flavious you’ve covered all the standard “this is bad” talking points...now what is your solution to some of those issues? Do you envision some benevolent theocratic type of govt. where only “approved” behaviors are allowed and any deviation gets you killed and/or incarcerated for life?
We can’t blame democrats for all of this. American society in general has to shoulder some of the responsibility. And Yes flavious that includes you. If we couldn’t be bothered to vote in school board elections that’s a problem. If we couldn’t be bothered to find out what the local politician running for office put out as their position paper on issues that’s a problem. You can’t leave it up to someone else to fix the problems.
It’s easier to blame the “other guy”...I get that. So the question is this...what exactly is the average person supposed to do to address these problems in an effective manner?? Nobody is going to get everything they want but at least we should try.
I don’t have a a magic wand to wave and make things all better. So I, like a lot of people, am looking for ways to fix stuff.
I thought America was all about gaslighting media.
Garbage In, Garbage Out. That's how our system works.
Yawn
Quite correct. It’s cultural rot driven by radical left-wing ideology destroying ever cultural norm.
You nailed it. What a self-obsessed person. Guarantee you he’s gay.
It’s the internet. People can run their mouths with no consequence. In the real world, someone might put their hands on you. Plenty here on FR have forgotten that reality.
With all these shootings lately it makes me wonder if they’re trying to distract us from something....
In Asia, in the last few years, men have committed mass murder with knives, fire, poison, and guns.
There are and have been FAR MORE apple pies!
***It’s not an American thing only.***
True. there have been several mass shootings in Russia, Germany and lots of them in Nigeria and other African towns.
Because they are not in the US the news media rarely reports on them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_Russia
Germany:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_Germany
There was a good guy with a gun who stopped the first guy.
It was the murderer’s gun that a young man took away from the murderer and used against the murderer.
Take out Chicago, and the murder rate in Illinois is close to that in Switzerland.
Subtract the murders committed by blacks, and America is a pretty safe place.
White Americans commit mass murder close to their proportion of the population, Asian Americans or residents somewhat higher but mass murders are a very small fraction of all killings. “Run of the mill” murders...whites commit at a low rate, Asians even lower.
It’s not the guns that make the murders...France has lots of hunters, Vermont and Czechia very few laws regarding guns, Istael and Switzerland require and armed populace.
Murder is not the price we pay for freedom or for owning gins. Murder is a consequence of the disposition of the people.
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