Posted on 01/23/2023 8:31:31 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Yevgeny Prigozhin, whose Wagner Group of mercenaries has dominated headlines in Ukraine, has reportedly been sidelined by Vladimir Putin after failing to make good on his promises of military gains.
The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said Prigozhin's "star has begun to set" following his boasts that his forces could capture the Donetsk city of Bakhmut.
The think tank said on Sunday that Putin wanted to see what Prigozhin and his previous commander in Ukraine, General Sergey Surovikin could do after the conventional Russian military had suffered disastrous setbacks.
"Both efforts failed," the ISW said, as Prigozhin's attempts to seize Bakhmut were frustrated and Surovikin's air campaign to inflict suffering on Ukrainian civilians expended "most of Russia's remaining stocks of precision missiles." Around 80 per cent of Prigozhin's 50,000-strong force in Ukraine are reportedly convicts who have been thrown into assault operations around Bakhmut at high cost. Putin was prepared to test how the use of prisoners would play out in the war.
On January 11, Putin appointed Valery Gerasimov, demoting Surovikin, in a move that the ISW said showed the Russian president is putting his trust in "the conventional Russian military once more."
Prigozhin's social media posts, in which he touted his forces' purported gains and disparaged the Russian command in the field, suggested he fancied himself as someone who could be a big player in military affairs. The ISW said "those hopes now seem to have been delusional" with Wagner not getting the expected credit for gains in the town of Soledar, near Bakhmut.
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Do you think we are sending them “the good stuff?”
And with whom are we going to war in Europe where we would need that inventory?
Turkey if you're an American. Hungary if you are a WEFtard.
And Turkey is invading whom, where we would be drawn into it?
Turkey is more likely to invade Syria, not Greece.
It already has. To kill Kurds that America enlisted to fight jihadis. The rule is that the U.S. now attack anybody who invades another country.
So the prediction you are posting is that in your opinion NATO will soon be at war with NATO member Hungary, and NATO member Turkey.
What is the time range when you see that, or those wars starting?
Depends on how long the Turks prevent Finland from joining NATO. WEF wants them in. Turkey, not so much. WEF will toss them out, and then they are enemy #2.
So your opinion is not only war between NATO nations soon, in the next few months perhaps, but that Turkey will be kicked out of NATO, and that the WEF runs NATO, and runs it with an iron fist and total control, and has the power to kick out countries.
When does the war start against Hungary, or will they be allied with Turkey in the same war when NATO attacks Turkey?
they did in the Nam war, 10 in the pen or 4 in the Cor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9MMPHd8Bwk
Update on Russian-Ukrainian conflict for January 23, 2023
- Russian forces are reportedly advancing in Zaporozhye while Ukraine continues losing ground around Bakhmut;
- Russian pushes in Zaporozhye could be (1) recon in force, (2) extending existing security zone ahead of actual Russian front line or (3) spoiling attacks on forces assembling for a future offensive;
- Ukrainian losses are severe and Reuters is reporting on supposed warnings by the US to Ukraine about going on the offensive; - Weapon shipments have been announced for Ukraine including a significant US DoD package, as well as all of Denmark’s Caesar self-propelled howitzers and all of Estonia’s FH-70 towed howitzers;
Oh God it is so stupid article..
In reality who may be jealous of Wagner success are the generals of Chief Staff. Wagner showed them that they are pussies.
Not with solders on a ground but there is indeed a problem with generals. They all mostly made their rank during peace times. So they have no or little battle skills in this full-scale war.
But Wagner fights all the time and all over the globe. So Wagner commanders are very skillful. Much more superior to the star generals of Russian military.
For Putin to have Wagner brigade to show how to fight to those who made generals but never fought no wars, is a really ADNVANTAGE. He is from intelligence by trade so he appreciates existence of many different assets. Wagner is just one of his assets and very useful.
So it is generals of military who have controversy of Wagner not Putin. And generals will need now to prove Russia and themselves that they also can fight a war like Wagner but in bigger scale.
So it is all will be for good of Russia after all.
You can tell by the keywords that the Putin-Puffers are not happy.
The more they thrash and seethe, the funnier it gets.
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Putin’s offensive in Zaporizhzhia is a flop, too. Too funny.
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