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Will Poland actually send them? If so, how many?

How many Leopard tanks can Ukraine expect to receive from all countries?

1 posted on 01/22/2023 7:03:49 PM PST by Mariner
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/01/22/germany-okays-a-dozen-polish-tanks-for-ukraine-hundreds-more-could-follow/?sh=7597cd2f7893


2 posted on 01/22/2023 7:08:03 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Question.

In the age of drone warfare, can a slew of inexpensive drones take out a tank that costs orders of magnitude more?

Are tanks the battleships of WWII, IOW the last of their kind before obsolescence?

IDK, that’s why I’m asking.


3 posted on 01/22/2023 7:08:20 PM PST by packagingguy
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Will Poland actually send them? If so, how many? How many Leopard tanks can Ukraine expect to receive from all countries?

Will they send? Who knows, but Poland is receiving new South Korean K2 tanks and US Abrams tanks. Poland has about 250 Leopard 2s. In total, there are around 2,000 Leopard 2 vehicles spread across Europe

10 posted on 01/22/2023 7:42:12 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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‼️🇬🇧🇺🇦In addition to tanks, the UK is going to send attack helicopters to Ukraine.

The British edition of the Mirror, citing a source from the defense sector, writes that the UK will send not only tanks, but also four attack helicopters equipped with Hellfire missiles to Ukraine.

According to the publication, the Apache AH64 E, the most modern version of these helicopters, will be sent. Each helicopter can be equipped with 16 Hellfire anti-tank rounds, 76 70mm Hydra rockets, and a 30-mm chain gun.

“Apache will be a game changer.” The tanks will arrive first, and it will take some time before the helicopters can be deployed. Other NATO members will now follow suit. Russia has thousands of tanks, so more than four Apaches would be needed to deliver a strategic strike. “But from a tactical point of view, this is an important step,” the source said.

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11 posted on 01/22/2023 7:44:28 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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I thought this would happen.

Poland has @250 of a few versions 2A4 and 2A5, plus some Polish upgraded ones.
All were to be replaced by US M1’s, which are arriving now.
So all 250 should be available at some point, probably this year.

Yes they will send them. Im guessing up to 50 initially, depending on how fast Poland can get M1’s in service.


16 posted on 01/22/2023 8:32:10 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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I think these are older stock, i.e. 2A4.

Not total junk if well maintained. Mid 80s tech and comparable to an M1A1 (baseline, even the A1 received significant upgrades over the years even though it was still called an A1).

The question is if these tanks have been updated and well serviced. If it’s the same as the original A4, then it’s really not that great of a tank today (it’s ~ a 38 year old model/design). Lot’s of threat main gun ammo, ATGMs, RPGs can knock them out with ease.

Poland is buying new K2 tanks from Korea (a very nice tank BTW) and our M1. I’d imagine they are donating their old stock of L2A4 for the cause in Ukraine.


19 posted on 01/22/2023 8:45:03 PM PST by Red6
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>>> Germany’s foreign minister said on Sunday her government would not stand in the way if Poland wants to send its Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, in a possible breakthrough <<<

Seems to go hand in hand with this, from just a few days ago:

Germany’s defense minister resigns amid criticism over handling of Ukraine war

https://www.foxnews.com/world/germanys-defense-minister-resigns-criticism-handling-ukraine-war


20 posted on 01/22/2023 8:45:26 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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>>>> Will Poland actually send them? If so, how many? <<<<

Yes, they likely will. Enough to secure Western Ukraine, which per some think tanks may become part of Poland as part of an eventual settlement. Even if that never happens, I wouldn’t expect too many Leopards to be expended trying to push entrenched Russia out of the far east parts of Ukraine. But who knows even what stage of this we’re in right now.


21 posted on 01/22/2023 8:51:03 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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So, if Germany still said no to Poland giving tanks to Ukraine, but Poland said they were doing it anyway, HOW would Germany stop it? Short of a physical invasion (again) what could they do?


32 posted on 01/23/2023 4:31:02 AM PST by rfreedom4u ("You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas")
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