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This is the UK Guardian calling for a major escalation of the war. I just read a book about the Crimea War from Russian specialist Orlando Figgs. One saw the same type of rhetoric in Britain leading up to and during the Crimea War. Now I am 100% sure this is all about a crusade for the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.
1 posted on 01/22/2023 5:23:18 AM PST by C19fan
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This geriatric fop is free to join the fight.


2 posted on 01/22/2023 5:27:09 AM PST by EEGator
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“but also for European democracy, rights and values”
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How so? Details.


3 posted on 01/22/2023 5:28:07 AM PST by xenia ( “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it” George Orwell)
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I can assure you that none of the sons or daughters of the editors of The Guardian will be fighting in any war; they will be safely ensconced behind the battlelines along with the progeny of warmongering US neocons. To talk of war with a nuclear-armed country such as Russia is remarkably wanton, stupid and dangerous.


4 posted on 01/22/2023 5:28:13 AM PST by laconic
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ehhh...Zelensky has all the dirt on NATO and DC involvement in the Maidan “revolution”

its why when he shows up in DC the entire UniParty fawns at his feet and gives him a signed blank check...and all the European ministers endorse his every breath. Its why DC had a collective heart attack over Trump’s phone call to him.

Putin knows it...and himself may have some of the hard copy as well and has used it to drive a huge wedge between Europe and the USA


7 posted on 01/22/2023 5:34:18 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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Not our fight, let Europe sort out their tribalisms....


8 posted on 01/22/2023 5:34:26 AM PST by dpetty121263
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It Is and has always been a US/NATO West/WEF proxy war against Russia.

-fJRoberts-


9 posted on 01/22/2023 5:36:38 AM PST by A strike ("The worse, the better."-.Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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“Fighting for all of us” seems a lot like “our democracy”.

This is all Deep State. Ukraine are globalists and I do not support them at all. Russia isn’t good, but Russia is just being Russia. It is a self-interested nation state. Such a thing is not new. But Ukraine is a key player on the road to world government and mass slavery. They need to lose.


11 posted on 01/22/2023 5:39:59 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Government always tries to steal freedom; People should always try to stop Government.)
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BS. Ukraine is not a nato nation.


12 posted on 01/22/2023 5:41:13 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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Must be the glow of the glowing mushrooms is lighting up this newsroom


13 posted on 01/22/2023 5:41:20 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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We have no dog in this fight.


15 posted on 01/22/2023 5:41:47 AM PST by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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The author


16 posted on 01/22/2023 5:41:58 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did wha, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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I am rubbing my eyes with disbelief.

When was the last time the UK Guardian urged Europe to declare war on a Russian dictator?


17 posted on 01/22/2023 5:42:37 AM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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I’m no fan of the Grauniad (nickname earned by its frequency of spelling mistakes) and it misunderstood the problem.

As do the anti WEF crowd.

The truth is “it takes two to tango”. Putin’s stated ambitions to replace the post-WW2 and post Soviet order with a Slavic one imposed by force is as much a part of the Great Reset as the broad cultural imperialism of the West.

The idea we can frustrate the Great Reset simply by letting Russia and China impose their visions on eastern Europe by force, and overturn western influences in Latin America is for the birds. What Russia is doing in Ukraine is every bit as destabilising as the post 9/11 adventures against Islamism.


18 posted on 01/22/2023 5:43:31 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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We must fight because we’re all deep state now ?


19 posted on 01/22/2023 5:44:34 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?)
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Whatta load of horse poo. Not many want to die over Ukraine and for the tyranny of the NWO. If they did, they would be volunteering their lives to fight there. Instead there are people in the EU marching in the streets against what is happening and our media is not reporting it.

People are exiting that messed up rathole, not wanting to fight for it.

The west/WEF imposing global tyranny are snookering people into thinking they actually believe in freedom.

They don’t and they have told you and shown you in many ways that they don’t and many don’t want to hear it.


20 posted on 01/22/2023 5:46:20 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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It is important to consider the potential consequences and drawbacks of escalating military involvement in the conflict. An increase in military support could lead to a more violent and prolonged war, resulting in more loss of life and destruction for both Ukraine and Europe. Additionally, it could also lead to a more aggressive response from Russia, potentially escalating the conflict to a larger scale that could draw the United States military forces into the war.

Furthermore, it is worth considering the potential for diplomatic and non-violent solutions to the conflict. While the current efforts of economic sanctions and diplomatic ostracism may not have ended the war, they have not been fully exhausted and could still be effective in bringing about a peaceful resolution.

Overall, while the article presents a compelling argument that Europe must take a more active role in the conflict in Ukraine, it is important to consider the potential consequences and drawbacks of escalating military involvement, as well as the potential for diplomatic and non-violent solutions.


21 posted on 01/22/2023 5:48:00 AM PST by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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Anyone who disagrees with this article is actively fighting against Our Democracy®.


23 posted on 01/22/2023 5:50:04 AM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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The POUNDING OF THE WAR DRUMS grows louder and louder; the CALLS FOR ESCALATION AND DEEPER INVOLVEMENT grow shriller and shriller.


24 posted on 01/22/2023 5:50:36 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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And it’s one, two, three
What are we fighting for?
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it’s five, six, seven
Open up the pearly gates
Well there ain’t no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we’re all gonna die!

Well, come on generals, let’s move fast;
Your big chance has come at last
Now you can go out and get those reds
‘Cause the only good commie is the one that’s dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we’ve blown ‘em all to kingdom come....


Courtesy of Country Joe and the Fish


25 posted on 01/22/2023 5:50:46 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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And…. There it is. Nuclear War.


32 posted on 01/22/2023 5:56:02 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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