Shit, bitch, enjoy!
Posted on 01/21/2023 8:47:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Lots emotional Reeeeeing!
Not a single refutation of a single paragraph.
Noted.
So it's OK for MeganCretin to call me a "Putin Puffer," but it's not OK for me to respond in kind?
Mighty convenient double-standard you got there, Soros fellater.
Grow up, son.
ESAD, grandpa.
> The problem is one’s prediction of another’s actions are not always what that other is actually contemplating. <
Ah, yes. Well said. And that’s why we pay the professionals (not that they do any better).
Someone once said that you’d get a better government if you just picked names randomly out of a phone book. That’s probably true.
“I wonder how those in the 101st feel about dying to preserve Ukraine’s borders? I doubt they’ll be happy about it.”
Yet, we did just that in WWII (only then it was Europe’s borders, not just one country’s). Germany wasn’t going to invade the US, or threaten our borders. So, by your logic, the US never should have been involved in the ETO during WWII: We should have just concentrated on the Pacific theater.
Or we could have just let the Nazis and Soviets beat each other senseless, then the US and the Brits could have swept in after we took care of Japan.
“ESAD, grandpa.”
I’ve said this about a small handful of others of your ilk, but you have shown you need to be included: You are one of those rare people of whom it can be said, “Whenever you speak, something is subtracted from the sum total of human knowledge.” In other words, you are a sum negative (i.e., less than a zero) upon the human experience.
That’s exactly what we should have done. Let the Soviets and Germans duke it out until exhausted then swoop in and pick up the pieces.
“Someone once said that you’d get a better government if you just picked names randomly out of a phone book. That’s probably true.”
I don’t think there is any doubt about it.
Presently, Ukraine is effectively a NATO surrogate and is exhausting the hapless Russians militarily and economically
That’s what Stalin wanted when he signed the Non-Aggression Pact: The Western powers and Germany to bleed each other dry, so the Soviets could have swooped in.
Why not return the favor, considering the Soviet Union was Germany’s biggest trading partner while the Nazis were rolling into France and bombing Britain.
Why would I care what you think?
You’re just a drive-by sniper.
Your analogy is ridiculous, we weren’t going to allow the Soviets to control all of Europe because it wouldn’t have been in our interest. We don’t have ANY interest in the Donbas or Crimea worth going to WW3 for.
Besides the MAJORITY of the people living in those areas voted to either be part of Russia or be independent. That should have been enough of a reason to have settled this by negotiation. But the US wanted war, that is the reality. Quit pretending that Russia wasn’t deliberately provoked into this war by the US and their puppet Zelensky.
“Or we could have just let the Nazis and Soviets beat each other senseless, then the US and the Brits could have swept in after we took care of Japan.”
The thing is, if Germany had fought just the USSR, and not had to concern itself with the rest of Europe, Germany would have won that fight. In which case we’d still have to fight Germany afterwards. But, by then, it wouldn’t have been just Germany, as Germany would have been allied with Italy, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, anti-communist Russia, Yugoslavia and the Balkans, and probably Turkey and Persia. Look at a map: Nazi Germany would have controlled most of Europe east of the 5th meridian; all of Asia Minor; and Russia all the way east to the Pacific. And, with Germany’s alliance with Japan...well, you get the picture.
I’m not sold on Germany beating Russia that quickly, I think it would have dragged on for years, perhaps Germany controlling most of the European part, but still facing big problems from partisans behind the lines, that tied them up. It would allow the Brits time to recoup their losses, and still with most of their Empire intact, and of course America would have been fully war-prepared, and most likely with the Nazis dealing with revolts throughout their occupied territories, I just don’t see the Nazis prevailing long-term, even without our involvement.
When they voted in Crimea, the only options were independence or joining Russia, there was no option to remain a part of Ukraine.
“The German Army in fighting Russia is like an elephant attacking a host of ants. The elephant will kill thousands, perhaps even millions, of ants, but in the end their numbers will overcome him, and he will be eaten to the bone.”
-Wehrmacht Colonel Bernd von Kleist
Shit, bitch, enjoy!
“Your analogy is ridiculous...”
Well, it was you who introduced the 101st AB into the subject; and in WWII the 101st fought solely in Europe, against Germany: It did NOT fight in the Pacific theater.
“We weren’t going to allow the Soviets to control all of Europe because it wouldn’t have been in our interest.”
EXACTLY! And nothing has changed since then! The USSR and Russia are pretty much the same thing: Russia still honors and celebrates the Soviet Union and its actions. The only difference between the USSR and today’s Russia is that today’s Russia has pulled away from Soviet communism and embraced — irony of ironies! — the fascism of WWII Germany! We have much the same interest today as we had in the 1940s, and beyond.
“Besides the MAJORITY of the people living in those areas voted to either be part of Russia or be independent.”
In 1991 they voted overwhelmingly to be independent of Russia and for Ukraine to be an independent and sovereign nation in its own right.
“Quit pretending that Russia wasn’t deliberately provoked into this war by the US and their puppet Zelensky.”
Russia wasn’t provoked. And if it thinks it was, it is even more insecure and delusional than everyone has suspected.
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