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Kyiv helicopter crash kills 18, top Ukraine officials dead
AP ^ | 18 Jan 2023 | ANDREW MELDRUM

Posted on 01/18/2023 2:11:59 AM PST by blueplum

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A helicopter crash in a Kyiv suburb Wednesday killed 18 people, including Ukraine’s interior minister and three children, Ukrainian authorities said.

There was no immediate word on whether the crash was an accident or a result of the war with Russia. No fighting has been reported recently in the Kyiv area.

Interior Minister Denys Monastyrskyi, his deputy Yevhen Yenin and State Secretary of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Yurii Lubkovych were among those killed...

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: angryneoconsbelow; brovary; cfit; controlledflight; doabarrelroll; flyunderground; helicopter; holdmuhbeer; imatouchgrass; intoterrain; kyiv; lubkovych; monastyrskyi; notourwar; puma; superpuma; ukraine; yenin
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To: tlozo

>There is pretty much nobody in Ukraine calling for “peace” with the russians.

Well, I guess they could just keep fighting until all the Ukrainians are dead, which is what is going to happen. The leadership is getting Ukrainian troops killed left and right and Russia isn’t much smarter, but at least they’re not being told to run into artillery fire.


21 posted on 01/18/2023 5:29:51 AM PST by struggle
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To: struggle
Well, I guess they could just keep fighting until all the Ukrainians are dead

Right, like in WW2 when Britain fought till every Britain was dead? Where do people come up with this nonsense? Ukraine pre-invasion had a population of 44 million and currently has 7 million men fit for military service.

22 posted on 01/18/2023 5:34:40 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: lodi90
My first day working in the radar division of a major defense contractor (40+ years ago) I was told that "a helicopter is the most dangerous place to be on a battlefield".

The subsequent discussion of rotor lengths, RPMs and dopper shifts convinced me.

23 posted on 01/18/2023 5:42:46 AM PST by The Duke (Never Retreat, Never Surrender!)
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To: tlozo

I don’t want anyone to die. The problem is that NATO/Ukraine think they can drive Russia from the Donbas, but they can’t.


24 posted on 01/18/2023 5:43:52 AM PST by struggle
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To: struggle

Never say never.


25 posted on 01/18/2023 5:45:02 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: lodi90
I’ll happily ride in a Cessna but something about helicopters scares the heck out of me.

It’s those thousands of parts in close proximity to each other, trying to beat each other to death 🤣

26 posted on 01/18/2023 5:48:56 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Interior ministry in Ukraine (and many European Countries ) is basically equivalent of Attorney General in the US.
Runs all security and security forces!
Huge!
Probably some Russian bomb?!


27 posted on 01/18/2023 6:26:32 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: tlozo

According to you. Tell us, where are you?
Who supplies you information?
Why do you care more about a non ally than the US?


28 posted on 01/18/2023 6:28:46 AM PST by EEGator
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To: tlozo
Yeap, tough to come back to the peace table after any of this.

And yes, I’ve seen the reports.

Putin squandered his chances, and there were many, to build a great future for Russia and its people. Instead he betrayed them with the delusions of a petulant megalomaniac dwarf.

I only want the funds allocated to Ukraine to go exactly where they need to go to end this and spare the civilians further misery.

And those who may have diverted said funds to anything other than this should be held as war criminals in addition to the dwarf.

29 posted on 01/18/2023 6:53:30 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: blueplum; All

Those killed were late with getting their 10% back to ‘The Big Guy’ from the American Treasure he has STOLEN from ‘We The People.’

Our involvement in this current Wag The Dog ‘war’ is dumber than all the American Blood & Treasure we wasted in Vietnam.

Or in the ME. (THIRTY YEARS! ODS/S Veteran.)

But, I’m not the one that makes these decisions. Obviously. They are made FOR me, AGAINST my will.


30 posted on 01/18/2023 6:56:38 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Clutch Martin
Military aircraft mechanics used to call it the “Jesus nut” it was one of those critical fasteners that held the blade assembly on.

Actually, the 'Jesus Nut' holds the rotor head on, not the individual blades.

31 posted on 01/18/2023 7:03:24 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: blueplum

“There was no immediate word on whether the helicopter crash, which came on a foggy morning near a kindergarten in Kyiv’s eastern suburb of Brovary,…”

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Now we know where Kobe’s pilot got his training.

/s


32 posted on 01/18/2023 7:05:51 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Lazamataz

‘Safe’ is relative term in either situation.


33 posted on 01/18/2023 7:10:29 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: struggle

Or his name was on docs in Biden’s garage.


34 posted on 01/18/2023 7:18:11 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: blueplum

just Z cleaning house again.
Z hates it when his own anti-aircraft misses and blows up uke apartments.
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Soledar mop up completed and salt mine 7 liberated....
things must be very very bad for Z-ski given the recent amount of Zeeper propaganda!

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If the attack on Krasna Gora captures high ground, m-03 road which brings supplies from Slavansk would be within artillery range..bakmut northwest encirclement advancing...
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Wagner advancing around Klesheevaka..High ground there would bring the supply road from Constantinovka in artillery range..Bakmut southwest encirclement advancing.
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I wouldn’t want to be in Bakmut.Biden don’t care about the last Ukrainian!

Siversk Front at risk in major pincer, as Russia attacks Vasyukivka and Serebryanka... DPA update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgRGcJ7RzcI


35 posted on 01/18/2023 7:30:38 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: blueplum

Trying to escape?

Children on board might indicate such.


36 posted on 01/18/2023 8:15:39 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

“ Trying to escape?

Children on board might indicate such.”
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The helicopter crashed into a kindergarten.


37 posted on 01/18/2023 8:18:06 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: struggle; All

The best way to obtain peace, is for invaders to stop invading sovereign nations.
Russia can bring back its troop swiftly from Ukraine by a simple decision.


38 posted on 01/18/2023 9:01:22 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: BlackbirdSST

Isn’t the rotor head the blade assembly?

I Thought Rotor heads were slang for the helo crew? Fixed wing maggots were the other. What do I know, I was shipboard.


39 posted on 01/18/2023 9:02:26 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: CarolinaReaganFan
just Z cleaning house again.

That was my first thought. Zelinsky wanted to get rid of someone on board and couldn't care less about the rest. That is how it works with the gangsters tied in with the Biden crime family.

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40 posted on 01/18/2023 9:15:13 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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