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Trump Dismisses COVID-19 Vax Safety Claims, Says He Saved 100 Million Lives
Newsweek ^ | 16 Jan 2023 | AILA SLISCO

Posted on 01/16/2023 10:51:44 PM PST by blueplum

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To: enumerated; absalom01; Golden Eagle

“Oh, and he got the vaccines approved.”

It wasn’t Trump. It wasn’t Fauci. The guy behind Operation Warp Speed was Alex Azar. You can read about it here:

“Alex Azar’s Story of the Genesis of Operation Warp Speed”

https://ldi.upenn.edu/our-work/research-updates/alex-azars-story-of-the-genesis-of-operation-warp-speed/

Fauci was just a cog in the Warp Speed machine, he didn’t design it or control it. In a September 2020 interview he revealed that he’s a fan of traditional vaccines. Maybe he will join forces with the FR mRNA haters in denouncing “the Clot $hots”.

“Why Anthony Fauci is happy being the ‘skunk’ on the Coronavirus Task Force”

https://www.science.org/content/article/why-anthony-fauci-happy-being-skunk-coronavirus-task-force

Q: Operation Warp Speed wanted vaccines that could be mass produced quickly. But what do you think of its portfolio? The obvious missing component is the inactivated virus vaccine. That’s moved very far with Chinese-made vaccines and now Europe is investing big time in it.

A: In a perfect world, you would want to get all those platforms going. A decision was made regarding the broad effort. I wasn’t the primary person in making that decision. I was and am responsible only for the NIH component of that multifaceted effort. We do the research, and we say, “These are the things we need to do.” A decision was made that they were going to have an overarching process involving multiple agencies of the federal government. It wasn’t completely in my hands. The one thing that I’m glad happened, because we were pushing for that, was to get a broader portfolio, a wide range of vaccine platforms including the more traditional one of recombinant proteins with an adjuvant.

Q: Most COVID-19 vaccines being tested in the United States only contain versions of the viral surface protein, spike. The inactivated virus vaccines have all the viral proteins. What do you think about broadening to include more viral components?

A: You know, it’s an interesting psychodynamic, saying we are in this catastrophic outbreak and we’ve got to move as quickly as we possibly can. We’re relying on the companies that come forth and say, “We’re willing to make an investment in this approach.” There was an emphasis on needing to do something about it right now, right away, because that’s the only thing you have, as opposed to approaches with other diseases where there was less of an emergency nature to the process. Other antigens besides the spike likely will be pursued in the second generation of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.

Q: The EUA situation raises an interesting problem. The way convalescent plasma was approved for an EUA combined with the EUA of hydroxychloroquine is tied together with confidence in the vaccine dropping.

A: I understand the need for and importance of EUAs, but I have long been of the opinion that the gold standard of determining conclusively if an intervention is safe and effective is conducting a randomized controlled clinical trial. An EUA is based on the principle that the benefit outweighs the risk in a situation where there is a reason to believe that the intervention may be effective. I am all for that—this can get life-saving interventions out quickly for people who need it. But this should only be done in a situation that doesn’t interfere with the process of ultimately proving whether that intervention is truly safe and effective. For convalescent plasma, an EUA was issued, and I hope that when the clinical trials are completed, we get a definitive answer.


221 posted on 01/17/2023 7:12:51 PM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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To: EVO X

“It is a failed technology in my opinion.”

Vaccines train your immune system to make certain antibodies. That’s their only function. They don’t cure anything on their own, it’s up to your immune system.

If the vaccines generated antibodies against the original spike they fulfilled all that they were capable of doing.


222 posted on 01/17/2023 7:18:45 PM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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To: Pelham

The Azar and Fauci articles were extremely interesting and informative. Thanks for posting.


223 posted on 01/17/2023 7:33:23 PM PST by I want to know
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To: Pelham

It was all a sham. The British Medical Journal was one of the first highly respected sources to expose it. Here’s one of their articles, from the associate editor of the esteemed publication:

Covid-19 vaccine trials cannot tell us if they will save lives

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/covid-19-vaccine-trials-cannot-tell-us-if-they-will-save-lives/

None of the current trials are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospitalizations, intensive care use, or deaths.

Vaccines are being hailed as the solution to the covid-19 pandemic, but the vaccine trials currently underway are not designed to tell us if they will save lives, reports Peter Doshi, Associate Editor at The BMJ today.

Several covid-19 vaccine trials are now in their most advanced (phase 3) stage, but what will it mean exactly when a vaccine is declared “effective”?

Many may assume that successful phase 3 studies will mean we have a proven way of keeping people from getting very sick and dying from covid-19. And a robust way to interrupt viral transmission.

Yet the current phase 3 trials are not actually set up to prove either, says Doshi.

“None of the trials currently underway are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospitalisations, intensive care use, or deaths. Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus,” he writes.


224 posted on 01/17/2023 7:45:32 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: Antoninus

Oh? What have I said that is wrong?


225 posted on 01/17/2023 8:24:06 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: usconservative

Whomever this has happened to would have a pretty good appeal ready made it seems. So you are saying to be clear that a judge forced a vaccination in a court order based on alimony? I would love to read the ruling on the motion. As court proceedings are a matter of public disclosure perhaps you would provide the case, case number and jurisdiction so we can all have a look at the order.

If it is as you say, I will be the first to contribute to a defense fund for this individual


226 posted on 01/17/2023 8:26:45 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: dforest

And there is the same level of PROOF that they cause all the heinous things certain people around here breathlessly report. Y’all can’t have it both ways.


227 posted on 01/17/2023 8:28:11 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: SisterK

To be clear, you have accused President trump of developing a bio weapon. That would make him a traitor and means you believe he committed an act od war which is treason. That is punishable by death. Please tell me you really don’t believe this father irresponsible and unfounded statement.


228 posted on 01/17/2023 8:36:05 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: Hostage

bttt


229 posted on 01/17/2023 10:57:34 PM PST by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Golden Eagle

The trials Doshi wrote about were current when he wrote it which was October 2020.


230 posted on 01/18/2023 12:07:22 AM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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To: dpetty121263

I have read that exit polls (for whatever they’re worth) indicated that Perot took votes more or less equally from the two establishment candidates.

There are plenty of opinions/spin on the ‘net on both sides of the issue if you care to look, but at least you are on the same page as George W. Bush who blames Perot for his father’s loss.


231 posted on 01/18/2023 1:07:27 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Pelham
If the vaccines generated antibodies against the original spike they fulfilled all that they were capable of doing.

If you have to keep getting boosted for a similar strain every few months, that doesn't seem to me to be very fulfilling.

232 posted on 01/18/2023 3:50:48 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: gas_dr
So you are saying to be clear that a judge forced a vaccination in a court order based on alimony?

Yes. I would love to read the ruling on the motion. As court proceedings are a matter of public disclosure perhaps you would provide the case, case number and jurisdiction so we can all have a look at the order.

When there's no court reporter in family court and the judge issues the warning verbally, good luck with that.

233 posted on 01/18/2023 5:15:43 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Palmetto State Conservative

You’re observation is spot on! Trump is still trapped in the media and deep state game, and can’t get himself out of it. It is over for him.


234 posted on 01/18/2023 5:20:03 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: gas_dr
Oh? What have I said that is wrong?

Exactly. Zero awareness.
235 posted on 01/18/2023 5:42:38 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: NorthMountain
I seriously doubt that gas_passer is an actual Medical Doctor.

I think he's every bit the MD that Dr. Robert Honeyman is.
236 posted on 01/18/2023 5:46:02 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus

Nice!


237 posted on 01/18/2023 7:45:55 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Pelham
#197 above

Biden appears and is recorded saying:

Biden MANDATED the vaccines whereas President Trump refused to mandate them.
238 posted on 01/18/2023 8:59:47 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: usconservative

Every court has a docket snd rulings on motion are public record. The fact is court rulings even family court can be researched. You don’t have squat, do you?


239 posted on 01/18/2023 10:52:43 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: gas_dr

Not when it happens in Judges Chambers.


240 posted on 01/18/2023 10:54:27 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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