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Zelensky’s Holy War – Seizing Russian Churches
Armstrong Economics ^ | 9 Jan 23 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 01/10/2023 11:56:27 AM PST by delta7

Marty, I just read that Ukraine seized control of a Russian Orthodox Church that has been there for a century. You were correct. Zelensky has also made this a holy war. The Ukrainian people should rise up against this guy. He is killing them all for hatred.

I have had staff on both sides in Ukraine. I have been well aware of the hatred and animosity that I do not see will ever be resolved. This is like the battle between the Shite v Sunni in Islam or the Catholic v Protestants in Christianity. Zelensky has shut down free speech and has seized control of the main cathedral and monastery in Kyiv which has always been Russian. It has always been affiliated with the Russian Orthodox patriarchate and allowed its Ukrainian rival group to use it for Orthodox Christmas services.

The cathedral is the oldest Orthodox church in Kharkiv. This was constructed in the Baroque style at the expense of the community in 1771-1777 long before Ukraine was even an idea. The old church was destroyed and dated from the middle of the 17th century.

This is no different from the French King seizing the Vatican and moving it to France at Avignon. Zelensky outright hates Russians and has even called on NATO to NUKE Moscow in a sneak attack.

Zelensky said a nuclear attack on Russia is “needed so that [the Russians] know what awaits them if they use nuclear weapons” during an event with the Australian think tank the Lowy Institute. “Not the other way around, waiting for Russia’s nuclear strikes and then saying, ‘Oh, you’ve done that, then get this.’”

This is the guy we are to send any missiles to? He is consumed with hatred and is the most dangerous head of state perhaps surpassing even Stalin and Kruschev.


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How does Ukraine justify shutting down churches?

Well, do remember senile Joe shut down churches first during his Covid vax hoax, hmmm…..

Carry on war cheerleaders, your St Zelensky and senile Joe are bent on war.

1 posted on 01/10/2023 11:56:27 AM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Because those churches were providing support and information to the enemy.


2 posted on 01/10/2023 11:57:50 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: delta7

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-12-02/ukraine-bans-religious-organizations-links-russia

Ukraine bans activities of religious groups with ties to Russia, fearing their collaboration in war….. KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine on Friday banned the activities of religious organizations “affiliated with centers of influence” in Russia and said it would examine the links between the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox churches.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signed a decree enacting a National Security and Defense Council decision to impose sanctions on representatives of religious organizations associated with Russia, which invaded Ukraine more than nine months ago.

Zelensky’s decree additionally provided for examining the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, one of two Orthodox bodies in Ukraine following a schism that in 2019 resulted in the establishment of one with independence from the Russian churc…..”

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2881867517950/ukraine-takes-over-kyiv-cathedral-amid-church-dispute?_f=app_share&s=a3&share_destination_id=MTIyNDM2Njc0LTE2NzMxMTg2ODg4NTI=&pd=08HjN4kC&hl=en_US&send_time=1673118688&actBtn=floatShareButton&trans_data=%7B%22platform%22%3A1%2C%22cv%22%3A%2222.52.0%22%2C%22languages%22%3A%22en%22%7D

“ The Ukrainian government has taken the main cathedral of a historic monastery in Kyiv from a denomination previously affiliated with the Russian Orthodox patriarchate and allowed its Ukrainian rival group to use it for Orthodox Christmas services.

The move comes as the long-running tensions between the two denominations have been aggravated by Russia’s war in Ukraine.

Ukrainian Minister of Culture Oleksandr Tkachenko had said Thursday that the Dormition Cathedral and the Refectory Church of the widely revered nearly 1,000-year-old Pechersk Lavra — also known as the Monastery of the Caves — in the Ukrainian capital had been taken over by the state after the lease held by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, or UOC, expired Dec. 31. The UOC was affiliated with the Russian Orthodox patriarchate up until Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine in February of last year…..”


3 posted on 01/10/2023 12:00:39 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

I’m not an Ortho, but I gotta say that Zelensky is a disgusting little cockroach.


4 posted on 01/10/2023 12:00:52 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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To: delta7

There doesn’t seem to be much traffic left on FR. War cheerleaders are offensive, anti-American, and stupid.


5 posted on 01/10/2023 12:01:03 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Vermont Lt

So Putin was correct in saying Russians within Ukraine long for their motherland?


6 posted on 01/10/2023 12:01:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: delta7
How does Ukraine justify shutting down churches?

When the priests are agents of an enemy state which is in the process of murdering, looting and raping Ukrainian civilians, the justification is fairly straightforward. For example, here is ROC priest Dmitri Zameshov:



He is sporting all his russian awards for cooperation with the military and police. Hell if you look cloce there may be an Order of Lenin in there somewhere...
7 posted on 01/10/2023 12:02:25 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: Vermont Lt; delta7
Because those churches were providing support and information to the enemy.

Thanks Chairman Mao. No doubt they are enemies of the state, and should be exterminated in the great Azov cultural revolution.

8 posted on 01/10/2023 12:03:08 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Vermont Lt

Yeah, the monks in hose churches were on the shortwave, tapping out morse code about when the lights are on or off. And what they can see out their front window.

Childish analysis. It’s just part of the Galician nazi ethnic cleansing.


9 posted on 01/10/2023 12:04:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: delta7

Zelensky and his government want the Ukrainian Orthodox church to prevail in Ukraine. NOT the Russian Orthodox church. This makes sense to me. Any Russian Orthodox churches that are shuttered, will convert over to Ukrainian Orthodox, in due time.


10 posted on 01/10/2023 12:04:21 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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Because the Russian Orthodox Church is an extension of the KGB.

Putin has been seizing Ukrainian children and sending them back to Russia to be raised as Russians.

Putin has been seizing Ukrainian towns and villages, and declaring entire Ukrainian oblast Russian.


11 posted on 01/10/2023 12:04:35 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: lump in the melting pot

You are the rational adult here. Good luck with that.


12 posted on 01/10/2023 12:05:18 PM PST by Eastern Shore Virginian (I am 100% certain.........but I may be wrong.)
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To: delta7

Klaus Schwab is happy.


13 posted on 01/10/2023 12:07:44 PM PST by Candor7 ( )
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To: delta7

Can you imagine the outrage that would ensue if a Western Christian president shut down all Jewish Synagogues in his country because he suspected they might be aiding and abetting some enemy country? How is this any different?


14 posted on 01/10/2023 12:09:07 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: dennisw

Oh.. so cleansing of the Russian population is the goal. Thanks for the clarification.


15 posted on 01/10/2023 12:11:13 PM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: Reaganez

Because the Russian Orthodox Church is an extension of the KGB.
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Sorry, you just lost all credibility. Having worked in Moscow and visiting many Russian Orthodox churches ( the Golden Ring is breath taking) , I can only say you have been drinking the western MSM whiskey, your hang over will be huge.

Infection with The Russian Derangement Syndrome has infected many. Do remember the Democrats began the disease with Trump, Russiagate, Meullers witch hunt,Ukrainian Vindman brothers testimony at Trumps impeachment,…

Carry on, it will be interesting when “the last Ukrainian” is asked was it worth it?


16 posted on 01/10/2023 12:13:35 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Been going on for years, throughout the region.

You want to see the history of that region watch the movie “Hatred” (Polish name ‘Wołyn’).

I thought “Come and See” was the most depressing movie ever made, this makes it look like a comedy.


17 posted on 01/10/2023 12:16:18 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dennisw

Zelensky and his government want the Ukrainian Orthodox church to prevail in Ukraine. NOT the Russian Orthodox church. This makes sense to me. Any Russian Orthodox churches that are shuttered, will convert over to Ukrainian Orthodox, in due time.
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Silencing of any Christianity has Satan’s hand all over it, not to mention a violation of our Constitution. You are walking on ice, and I hear it cracking. You need an anti- Russian Derangement Syndrome vax.


18 posted on 01/10/2023 12:18:00 PM PST by delta7
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To: PGR88; Vermont Lt
Thanks Chairman Mao. No doubt they are enemies of the state, and should be exterminated in the great Azov cultural revolution.

Good reply to one of our most outspoken Bidenistas. These people are completely blinded to what the actual situation is by their allegiance to state sponsored propaganda. Their bedfellows are Biden, AOC and the squad, Pelosi, Schumer, and every uniparty swamp creature that has been engineering the destruction of the USA through election fraud, taking away every right we used to feel was sacred, and replacing us with a bunch of illegal immigrants.

These people should be called out every day and I salute you for doing it. They are colluding with and backing the people who are destroying this country.

19 posted on 01/10/2023 12:32:26 PM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Reaganez

Such BS...


20 posted on 01/10/2023 12:35:23 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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