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A perfect (winter) storm brings lessons for gas producers and the electric grid
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^
| January 9, 2023
| Anya Litvak
Posted on 01/09/2023 6:33:12 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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It looks like we shouldn't be acting so quickly to phase out coal until we get all the kinks out of natgas.
Or maybe we shouldn't be phasing it out, period.
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
No one saw this coming. No one.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:36:50 AM PST
by
IncPen
("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The people in charge know that solar and wind power can’t handle the load. Yet they continue rushing headlong into destruction.
I’m betting they will be warm and confortable in their homes and limosines while we shiver in the dark.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:36:56 AM PST
by
I want the USA back
(News media not worth camel spit. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho. )
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
More solar mills and wind panels will help out a lot here. Hey gangreen climmunists——👎
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:42:25 AM PST
by
rktman
(Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
To: IncPen
Lessons?
Libtards never learn any lessons. They think that the only reason that their idiotic Marxist policies fail is because they aren't allowed to push them far enough.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:43:28 AM PST
by
Vigilanteman
(The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Brutsl,cold? Sure it was cold, but it’s not like,we haven’t experienced it many many times before, for weeks on end sometimes. Living in cold parts of a action, one learns very early,on to adapt. Sounds like whoever is running things isn’t too bright perhaps?
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:46:01 AM PST
by
Bob434
(question)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It’s warm in New England. And, power bills are only up 50%.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:50:50 AM PST
by
MMusson
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The radical marxist left has been waging a war on carbon-based fuel for over 30 years. There are no quick solutions to improve the grid.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:51:25 AM PST
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
but they were preparing for Global Warming
To: Bob434
In my opinion the Obama administration killed a large amount of coal fired production facilities, allowed insiders to buy coal sources after the market killed the prices, and now coal producers make big money for insiders but the coal fired capacity has been replaced with imaginary solar and wind capacity as well as freeze susceptible gas fired. Gas fired comes on very fast when needed and that works well in the summer, however water is needed to keep gas wells delivering in that fast manner and that doesn’t work well in winter for fast ramp up.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:52:30 AM PST
by
KC Burke
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
> It looks like we shouldn't be acting so quickly to phase out coal until we get all the kinks out of natgas. Except the WEF press is using natural gas as a scapegoat, when the real issue is the unpredictability and unreliability of the weather related renewables such as wind and solar.
Wind (or lack of) was the real cause of the previous Texas grid failure, and ERCOT irresponsibly and irrationally switched over 1/3 the generation over to it.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:53:08 AM PST
by
SecondAmendment
(This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Nuclear is better than coal.
We must resume with smaller nuclear plants
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:54:11 AM PST
by
bert
( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality daythis piece is )
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
What’s solar and wind doing?
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:54:12 AM PST
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There is no energy shortage but government interference in production and distribution. The USA has the largest supply of carbon based energy on earth.
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:58:42 AM PST
by
mountainlion
(Live well those that did not make it back.)
To: I want the USA back
while we shiver in the dark.
A few extra layers, perhaps a sweater and a winter coat, a pair of mittens, and several dogs and cats huddled on the couch. Now who doesn’t think that’s a great idea? Just be sure to light a few candles before putting on your mittens.
I’m sure it will be great indoors. Of course, you’ll starve except for cold cans of beans and tuna fish .
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posted on
01/09/2023 6:59:09 AM PST
by
drSteve78
(Je suis Deplorable STILL )
To: IncPen
“No one saw this coming. No one.”
Isn’t it inevitable? Semper paratus and all that.
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posted on
01/09/2023 7:06:52 AM PST
by
Clutch Martin
("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
That’s right. Its the “perfect winter storm.” Not disastrous energy policies.
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posted on
01/09/2023 7:07:25 AM PST
by
Opinionated Blowhard
(When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
To: SecondAmendment
weather related dependent renewables
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posted on
01/09/2023 7:09:02 AM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
To: Jeff Chandler
> weather <strike>related</strike> dependent renewablesThanks for the correction, that was my initial choice.
I should have trusted my self :).
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posted on
01/09/2023 7:25:09 AM PST
by
SecondAmendment
(This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
To: Vigilanteman
They think that the only reason that their idiotic Marxist policies fail is because they aren't allowed to push them far enough. Exactly right.
I was surprised that the newspaper did not call for a big tax increase to "solve" the problem (See Tagline.).
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posted on
01/09/2023 7:29:32 AM PST
by
libertylover
(Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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