Posted on 01/09/2023 5:05:00 AM PST by linMcHlp
Russian forces have cut the main north-south highway, that was a supply link for Ukraine forces, north of Bakhmut [Ukraine].
Soledar to the north of that Russian break-through, is in danger of complete encirclement.
Anymore low-info rants - low info ranter?
Go have a nice bowl of soup and shut up - silly old fart.
Most of the Russian air defenses in the area have either been eliminated or withdrawn to Moscow. Risk is only manpads, mostly.
What you perceive as silliness is in reality wisdom
US military is training 500 Ukrainians a month on the Bradleys. All good here. Have a nice day.
Well, it most certainly explains the concentration of forces around Bakmut.
It sounds as though it’s a very large, extended Mariupol.
It must be taken by Russia or their goals for the east will not be realized. But it will come at a very high cost.
I wonder if RU would risk flying air-to-air MiGs or SUUs in an attempt to shoot down UKR aircraft.
I would expect UKR would have some SEAD aircraft orbiting close enough to launch HARMs if an RU mobile surface-to-air site starts transmitting.
Battlefield Bakhmut: Why Russia & Ukraine are Fighting Over this City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EpNNwbRag&ab_channel=TheNewAtlas
I think if they should, it would really be in desperation and would mostly end up as lost planes and pilots. UA likely has more air defense in the area than Russia with the pull back of AD to Moscow.
I have no idea if this report is true or not.
But IF the NATO proxies lose Bakhmut due to an operational encirclement then they lose Kramatorsk and the war for Donbass.
What would happen then?
IIRC Col. Douglas McGregor has predicted that once Kramatorsk falls, Russia will be off to the races: with large armoured movements across the flat lands to the west.
However - with all respect to Col. McGregor - I just don’t see it.
Russia has been in no hurry in the Bakhmut area (nor any area). They seem to have relied on a low-risk, low-manoeuve strategy of attrition like a one-way Verdun: leveraging their (now 10 to 1?) advantage in artillery and their deep Soviet-era stock of munitions.
I don’t think they will ever switch to ‘cavalry mode’. I think that Russia will continue to take small steps under full air-defence cover all the way to the Dneiper, and so deter any possible NATO intervention.
Weeb Union has an update that tempers the earlier report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwNovu1ttzo
Now showing that a westbound break-through is neither broad nor certain, and not large, but a Russian force has made a narrow thrust. At 1:17 in the video - the central vector of 3 vectors, cuts the north-south highway.
See my reply 51. Weeb Union has modified the earlier report. Apparently the Russians made a claim to a broad break-through.
I agree.
...with the pull back of AD to Moscow.
It will be interesting to see if UKR is able to fly more sorties as a result of this pull back. Cause & effect.
People, like you, who suggest arresting Americans opposed your dirty Uke s**thole-war are very far from “wise.”
They’re deluded. Demented even. They cause people who previously liked them to NOT any longer.
They have thousands of nukes. So what?
They won’t use them—or they already would have.
All they do is threaten.
I remember in the Iraq war the US Army paused after three days or so and the US Media went crazy, thinking we had failed. Just a few days into the war, the US Army had to paused because they had outrun their supply lines. And this was against a Russian supplied opponent.
Compare that to the Russians. They cannot take a modest sized city. After months. They throw tens of thousands into the meat grinder. And yet, the city still stands.
Tell me again how strong Russia is. Threaten us again with nuclear war.
Russia wouldn’t be an effective fighting force within a couple of hours against a “peer.”
“They have thousands of nukes. So what?
They won’t use them—or they already would have.
All they do is threaten.”
You are probably right—let us say there is a 99% chance you are correct.
Still a bad bet.
It is not the odds that matter, it is the risk of getting it wrong that matters.
I think they already are.
I believe that is why the call for tanks to Ukraine. Bakhmut is going to fall.
Surrender and submission seem to be your basic make-up.
You should probably stay away from these sorts of discussions.
Agree. If Ukraine had liberated Kharkiv and parts of Luhansk region with a tank brigade instead of pick up technicals they would have rolled up the invading Russian army all the way to the border. The Russian military is a mirror of Russian society: fake and corrupt at its core.
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