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Man Legally Changed Gender to Gain Custody of His Kids. Trans Groups Are Concerned.
Vice ^ | Janaury 5, 2023 | Nathaniel Janowitz

Posted on 01/07/2023 8:53:10 AM PST by grundle

René Salinas Ramos says the legal change is an attempt to gain full custody of his daughters, because Ecuadoran law favors mothers in custody battles.

A cisgender man in Ecuador legally changed his gender to female in an attempt to gain custody of his two daughters. But LGBTQ groups are concerned about the man’s use of a law designed to promote transgender rights, and what effect it could have in the future.

René Salinas Ramos, 47, told local media that the change was not related to his sexuality or identity, but rather that the Ecuadorian legal system gives preferable rights to mothers over fathers when it comes to the custody of children.

“The laws say that the one who has the right is the woman. As of this moment, I am female. Now I’m also a mom, that’s how I consider myself,” Salinas Ramos told La Voz del Tomebamba outside the Civil Registry office on December 30 in the city of Cuenca. “I am very sure of my sexuality. What I have sought is that I want to be a mother, so that I can also give the love and protection of a mother.”

Salinas Ramos alleged that his daughters live in an abusive environment with their mother and that he hasn’t seen his children in over five months.

“Being a father in this country, Ecuador, is punished and I’m only seen as a provider,” said Salinas Ramos.

But the man’s legal change from male to female has surprised and concerned LGBTQ activists who fought to have Ecuadorian laws changed in 2015 to allow the change of gender.

“This man’s private matter, to obtain custody of his daughters, isn’t the spirit of the law,” Diane Rodríguez, one of Ecuador’s most prominent trans activists and the national director of the Ecuadorian Federation of Organizations LGBTI, told VICE World News.

Rodríguez, who became Ecuador’s first trans Assembly person from 2018 to 2021 and also helped spearhead the 2015 law, said that with her understanding of the law, a judge would certainly not give custody because of a change of gender “because it does not make sense that you have changed your gender in the identity document without being a trans person, only with the objective of taking advantage to obtain custody.”

The concept seemed so outlandish at first that Rodríguez admitted that when she saw it in the local press, she thought it was “fake news.” But after realizing that the man had in fact legally changed his gender, the Ecuadorian Federation of Organizations LGBTI released a statement denouncing the change on Tuesday.

“We are afraid that in the Assembly things will go backwards and they will start legislating against us,” she said.

Rodríguez explained that the 2015 law created an unintended consequence because while it allowed people to legally change their gender on Ecuadorian documents, it didn’t allow them to change their sex on government issued documents that are recognized globally such as passports. This in effect, meant that trans people needed to have two different legal documents, one that defined their preferred gender identity, and one that defined their sex by birth. 

In May, trans activists reached a major milestone when the assembly ratified a previous 2018 legal decision that allowed a trans man to legally change his sex. That ratification created a legal precedent where the assembly had nine months to legislate and potentially approve a law that would allow the change of a person’s sex.

“So, what is happening at this moment [with Salinas Ramos] could cause a change of criteria of some assembly members for the change of sex in the identity card of trans people,” said Rodríguez. “They now only have one month to process this law. That is our current fear.”

Seemingly expecting the backlash, Salinas Ramos told La Voz del Tomebamba that his decision “is not against a person, not to harm anyone, but rather to fight against this system that has stigmatized the fact of being born a man.”

But Rodríguez doubted that the man’s legal change to female would help him beyond added publicity to his case.

“The law doesn’t say anything about the best interests of children,” she said. “I understand that in his situation, in desperation, he chose to change the gender on the identity document. But no, it won't have any effect.”


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: childcustody; civilrights; legalprecedent; lgbtq; precedent; trans; transgender
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1 posted on 01/07/2023 8:53:10 AM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Lol!


2 posted on 01/07/2023 8:55:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: grundle

Just another day in the twilight zone. Beam me up Lord🙏


3 posted on 01/07/2023 8:57:33 AM PST by FES0844
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To: grundle

It’s a crazy world out there. It’s no wonder aliens from other worlds are reluctant to contact us


4 posted on 01/07/2023 9:00:10 AM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: grundle

Now he just needs to regurgitate their slogans in public. He’ll easily win his case

“I just want to live according to my true nature.”

“No one has the right to define my sexuality.”

“Forcing me to remain a man is form of cisgender, heterosexual oppression.”


5 posted on 01/07/2023 9:01:23 AM PST by PGR88
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To: grundle

That’s the problem with LGBTQ ‘civil rights’ - they’re based on feelings and not realities like race and gender.


6 posted on 01/07/2023 9:03:22 AM PST by struggle
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To: grundle
Man Legally Changed Gender to Gain Custody of His Kids. Trans Groups Are Concerned.

Excellent!

Karma!


7 posted on 01/07/2023 9:08:25 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: grundle

Actions have consequences, you woke idiots.


8 posted on 01/07/2023 9:09:23 AM PST by simpson96
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To: grundle

Hahaha I would buy this “ lady” a beer to celebrate his out of the box thinking. 🍺😁


9 posted on 01/07/2023 9:24:00 AM PST by catbertz
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To: grundle; Tax-chick

LOL, indeed!! Love it! Take THAT, you alphabet people.


10 posted on 01/07/2023 9:27:19 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: struggle

“not realities like race and gender.”

I don’t get it.

There are many races and infinite mixtures of races.


11 posted on 01/07/2023 9:31:52 AM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: grundle

Man! My brother should have changed his sex as well, he lost the house in his divorce. The broad legal ramifications of this are huge. How do you settle legal matters in certain situations when sex and gender can be changed at will?


12 posted on 01/07/2023 9:32:33 AM PST by Dingolingo888 (Hillary knew?)
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To: grundle

So it’s OK for sexual perverts to identify as per their particular pretense, but it’s not OK for a father to pretend he’s the mother in order to prevail in a court system that pretends single mothers raise children better than single fathers.


13 posted on 01/07/2023 9:40:47 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I'm a nationalist. I'm white. How does that make me racist?)
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To: grundle

Good for him. Game the corrupt and insane system.

This is actually my biggest concern about all the insanity - hetero, otherwise normal people will take full advantage when they need or want it. See boys in the bathroom and locker room.


14 posted on 01/07/2023 9:42:54 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV)
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To: Tax-chick

I bet he does not have to register for the draft now either.


15 posted on 01/07/2023 10:14:15 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: grundle

So, is he a male lesbian, or a female fag, or neither, or both?

I’m so confused, but not as much as a tranny.


16 posted on 01/07/2023 10:16:34 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: grundle

Silver lining..he gets to change clothes in the Women’s dressing room at the gym.


17 posted on 01/07/2023 10:21:43 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: grundle
Following the example of the Canadian dude who became a “woman” a few years ago so he could get lower rates for his auto insurance.

I would encourage people to do this at every opportunity.

18 posted on 01/07/2023 10:22:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: grundle

PAYBACK IS A BITCH !!!!!!!!!


19 posted on 01/07/2023 10:29:05 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: grundle

Good. The only way to beat these jerks is to use their own rules. If I ever have to deal with government officials I will change my gender every interaction and sue for them misgendering me.


20 posted on 01/07/2023 10:33:46 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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