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Kevin McCarthy Caves
Redstate ^ | 1/5/22 | Bonchie

Posted on 01/05/2023 7:35:47 AM PST by cdnerds



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: freedomcaucus; kevin; mccarthy; republican; speaker; termlimits
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To: so_real

If he wasn’t such a sleaze-he’d stand down!


41 posted on 01/05/2023 7:55:35 AM PST by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: NautiNurse

Have you ever studied the anticipated shift of power from career politicians to career unelected, maybe unionized, workers? Term limits shifts power, doesn’t solve the problem of entrenched, maybe corrupt politicians. The only solution to them is good candidates and voters.


42 posted on 01/05/2023 7:55:44 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Don’t give up on term limits. See my post #35.


43 posted on 01/05/2023 7:56:54 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: FarCenter

Kev agrees to have both his spine and gonads removed. He will be perfect.


44 posted on 01/05/2023 7:57:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

But nothing was really gained and McCarthy will wins.


45 posted on 01/05/2023 7:57:13 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: All

The fundamental Boehner problem was his willingness to use Dem votes to get legislation through over the majority of his own caucus.

This issue arises most prominently with Debt Ceiling fights.

In the current instance, I suspect a majority of the GOP caucus will approve of debt ceiling increases for almost any reason whatsoever.

There is $31T in debt, but about $7T of that is held by the Fed and drains no interest from Treasury. So a ceiling increase (we’re on track for $1T deficit this year, so there WILL be a debt ceiling fight) is guaranteed to come up. The GOP . . . SHOULD use it to undo the recent omnibus bill. Whether or not a majority of the conference would approve of that is doubtful, but possible.


46 posted on 01/05/2023 7:58:50 AM PST by Owen
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To: Reno89519

McKaren will start reaching across the isle post haste.


47 posted on 01/05/2023 7:59:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Sacajaweau
it’s called political blackmail....romney collins and murkowsi do it all the time

Perhaps more optimistically, its called "a first step in draining the swamp". As in reducing the RINO influence in the R party; a handful with determination and political determination are rising to the challenge.

48 posted on 01/05/2023 7:59:36 AM PST by frog in a pot (A community can offer lasting prosperity only if it holds its members accountable.)
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To: popdonnelly
This one member motion to vacate is ridiculous. So one disgruntled member can tie up the whole House? Anyone not believe that Boebert or Gaetz will try it?

No big deal. One member motion was the rule for a couple centuries, changed in 2018. Doesn't mean there will be a vote on the issue, the last vote was around 100 years ago.

49 posted on 01/05/2023 8:00:03 AM PST by SJackson (nations that are barren of liberties are also barren of groceries, Louis Fisher)
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To: cdnerds

Yep. I agree 100%. In writing! I don’t trust anything that comes out of the mouth of those in DC. They’re all backstabbing weasels. They say one thing they promise so much on the campaign trail, and as soon as they step foot on the steps of the capitol they become wolves in sheep clothing. Thank God for those 20 brave Republicans! I still don’t trust McCarthy he needs to go. Period! He is poison, cancer, and part of the swamp establishment. That will never change. It’s all about the money, the power and having the boot on the neck of us peasants. It’s all about power and control.


50 posted on 01/05/2023 8:00:40 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: cdnerds

“Lets get it in writing..”

Lets get it in writing...tattooed on McCarthy’s forehead!


51 posted on 01/05/2023 8:00:54 AM PST by RouxStir (No Peein' in the Gene Pool )
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To: cdnerds

I don’t trust McCarthy to honor any of his commitments. He’s too much of a dyed in the wool swamp denizen, like Mitchie McConnell.


52 posted on 01/05/2023 8:01:00 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Ultra MAGA in Biden's Post Constitutional United Socialist States of Amerika!)
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To: Leaning Right

The grandfathering process has a great deal of merit.

Term limits is the fundamental mechanism for draining the Swamp. Grandfathering would protect current alligators, who have no interest at all in future alligators.


53 posted on 01/05/2023 8:01:34 AM PST by Owen
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To: srmanuel
That rule was in place for at least 100 years before Nancy Pelosi reversed it, it’s not a crazy rule at all

It would be reversed again the instant the Democrats gain the majority again. This rule will only affect Republican speakers going forward.
54 posted on 01/05/2023 8:04:19 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: popdonnelly

“This one member motion to vacate is ridiculous...”

Yep, it only worked well for 100+ years.


55 posted on 01/05/2023 8:04:37 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: montag813

“...There’s a Democrat senate and president, none of that shit will go through. They should require things that he can do such as a new church committee and release of all January 6th files.”

Yep, everyone, including the so-called ‘holdouts’, knew this from the beginning. Think there’s going to be 60 votes in the Senate to pass anything useful? Think Biden is going to sign this stuff into law? Zero chance.


56 posted on 01/05/2023 8:05:00 AM PST by Roadrunner383
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To: popdonnelly

Stop hyperventilating:

Fact check: When was the “motion to vacate the chair” rule last used in Congress?
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/When_was_the_%22motion_to_vacate_the_chair%22_rule_last_used_in_Congress


57 posted on 01/05/2023 8:05:13 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: FlyingEagle
They need a viable alternate candidate that can get more than 20 votes is the issue.
58 posted on 01/05/2023 8:05:34 AM PST by cdnerds (Vapingunderground)
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s called leverage, and their constituents demand it be used, aka “representation”.


59 posted on 01/05/2023 8:06:20 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: popdonnelly

This one member motion to vacate is ridiculous. So one disgruntled member can tie up the whole House? Anyone not believe that Boebert or Gaetz will try it?

?/\

Its called

Checks
And
Balances

It USED to be a foundational premise of our Republic.

It’s a good , nay, necessary thing.

4000 page omnivoupusa bill no one can read in 3 hours is what we ended up with out it.


60 posted on 01/05/2023 8:06:22 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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