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To: griswold3
Since the election debacle I have seen many theories for the surprise. This time the portion of Times article this side of the pay wall says the polls were wrong. I've seen McConnell blamed, the quality of the candidates, Donald Trump all blamed.

No one has replied to this theory.

From an earlier reply:

Both the 2020 election the 2022 election have demonstrated that neither the facts on the ground nor the issues debated in the press (or ignored by the press) are cogent enough to overcome the infrastructure advantage owned by the Democrats.

If the Hunter Biden laptop story could not gain traction, either in 2020 or in 2024, we must acknowledge that there is something going on beyond our capacity to win elections when every historical precedent tells us we should have sailed to victory.

The problem is not only Rona McDaniel, although of course she has to go, the problem is not only misfeasance by Mitch McConnell, the problem is not poor candidates (Doctor Oz, for example, was a reasonably able candidate who should have won in the conditions that obtained in Pennsylvania). No, the problem is best seen as a problem of infrastructure.

We all know the Democrats are advantaged in the media to a value of hundreds of millions of dollars but they are also advantaged in the gathering and spending of campaign contribution.

More, the Democrats have disproportionately more organizations supplying the party with foot soldiers who can deliver live voters or who can harvest and transport dubious ballots in battleground races where it counts and where the pollsters might not have the algorithm to acess Democrat get out the vote capacity. Getting out the vote power is difficult to measure if, as I suggest, that power lies inchoate waiting only for the machine to go into high gear.

Gramsci, communist of The Frankfurt School and his followers, have accomplished their long walk through the institutions so they have co-opted virtually every political, governmental, nongovernmental, cultural and educational agency in the land. All the millions of people associated with these institutions, dependent on these institutions for their rice bowls to be filled, are likely Democrat voters, otherwise they cannot prosper within these institutions. Many of them serve as foot soldiers.

Perhaps the most important institution subverted by Democrats is the educational establishment that actively churns out Democrats from kindergarten through postgraduate studies. By the time these indoctrinated individuals approach the voting booth, the indoctrination is so complete that distractions like Hunter Biden's laptop pointing to gross corruption of a presidential candidate are simply discounted. In other words, the quality of the candidate on the Democrat side does not matter, hence, a president can be elected who cannot safely venture from his basement and a Senator can be elected who humiliates himself in debate. These voters are conditioned as though they were in a Skinner box and the stimulus that comes from the Republican Party simply does not register.

That assumes that a Republican message will be conveyed by the media to actually penetrate that Skinner box.

For those individuals who do not reflexively vote Democrat as a result of indoctrination, the Democrats have brilliantly exploited data mining. Data mining tells marketers your shoe size and it tells Democrats your electoral proclivities and vulnerabilities which they exploit because they have legions of foot soldiers who will expend the shoe leather to personally approach data mined voters whose vulnerabilities have been psychologically evaluated. These foot soldiers have been prompted to actually psychologically exploit those vulnerabilities on an individual and personal level.

Republicans are competing with old tools and old methods in the digital world that represents one of the three great revolutions in the history of mankind.

Studies have revealed that Google can, and no doubt has, critically influenced election merely by adjusting its algorithms to mislead curious voters who use their search facility. How do pollsters measure this? Algorithms vs algorithms?

All of these features come together to create a formidable infrastructure that increasingly and inevitably produces Democrat victories.

Occasionally a charismatic figure like Donald Trump can break through, especially if the Democrats were asleep at the switch out of hubris and disregard for Trump. But overall, and increasingly, the fate of the Republican Party is slipping out of its control. 2016 will be seen as an outlier because Democrats have since fully recovered and deployed all their resources.

Unless and until the degree and nature of the problem is understood, we will continue to be frustrated and in our frustration we will point fingers at individuals, at candidates, and we will continue to believe that we can win next time if only we can get an honest count. Mitch McConnell is not the problem, he is just one of the problems that cannot be overcome in the landscape and infrastructure that exists.

The infrastructure problem has taken us well beyond these fixes.


33 posted on 12/31/2022 7:29:13 AM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Oz was not a good candidate for rural Pennsylvanian voters.


35 posted on 12/31/2022 7:33:36 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: nathanbedford
Unless and until the degree and nature of the problem is understood, we will continue to be frustrated and in our frustration we will point fingers at individuals, at candidates, and we will continue to believe that we can win next time if only we can get an honest count.

This is correct - but conservatives have nothing to sell to the Participation Trophy Generation even if their messaging can get through.

Many here believe that a majority of Americans are closet conservatives who are having their votes stolen or being tricked by media into voting against their interests. While there remains some residual desire among the voting public to be left alone, too many just want government to make all of their problems go away - and hear conservative talk of personal responsibility as a horrible threat to their freedoms rather than as a necessary component to guarantee them.

We can attempt to dismantle the Democrat information infrastructure, but even when it is gone conservatives may find few new voters capable of receiving or understanding the messaging.

50 posted on 12/31/2022 7:55:18 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: nathanbedford
Dead on about the cultural infrastructure in this country. What you didn’t mention was that in the past, we at least had religious and local social institutions that mitigated against the media (and now digital communication) blob. Those institutions have weakened as America has become less localized and more secular.

Trump was indeed an outlier/fluke and let’s not forget he was beaten handily in the National vote total way outside any margin for “fraud.” There is no conservative “silent majority” waiting to take back the country - most Americans may not be flaming wokists, but nor are they MAGA - but the Dems have the social and cultural infrastructure in this country and know how to pull the levers.

Not too many people seem to have my take on 2022: Neither Biden nor the GOP were popular enough to build a majority coalition. This is a divided country with the victory margins among the truly marginal.

60 posted on 12/31/2022 8:13:43 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: nathanbedford

Brilliant analysis! Conditioning of the Dumb Masses with help from the Marxist Media including claims the “Republicans are Extremists” and “Democracy is at stake “keeps the Left’s job simple. Branding is successful. No debate needed, case closed.


65 posted on 12/31/2022 8:23:02 AM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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