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A house divided ... Better figure something out quick-like or it'll be Brandon in a walk.
1 posted on 12/29/2022 7:00:21 AM PST by AT7Saluki
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I already voted for Trump four times. He’s going to have to do better to win my vote again. So far it seems he hasn’t learned a damned thing.


2 posted on 12/29/2022 7:03:13 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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we’re heading for a 1912-repeat, in which the Republican Party ignores its own voters.

They never stopped.

5 posted on 12/29/2022 7:08:26 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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What is the Bull Moose option?

Does it involve biting someone’s sister?


7 posted on 12/29/2022 7:08:50 AM PST by DannyTN
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He’s taking a page from McCarthy’s playbook: If you don’t go with me, you will get a DemocRat. That may be the only reason he’s backing a RINO snake like McCarthy, so he can use that tactic, too.


9 posted on 12/29/2022 7:10:03 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Bull Moose option with the same result only this time someone worse than Wilson!


12 posted on 12/29/2022 7:11:07 AM PST by Reily
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The last time the Bull Moose Option was tried, we got Woodrow Wilson as President. Yep, this was the man who strongly supported the federal income tax , big government, and got us into World War 1.

The Bull Moose option plus Democrat cheating will ensure another term for a Democrat ( even if he is incapacitated ).

He who does not learn from history is condemned to repeat it.


13 posted on 12/29/2022 7:11:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Make Woodrow Wilson president and get us in a massive war?


15 posted on 12/29/2022 7:11:46 AM PST by nickcarraway
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A house divided ... Better figure something out quick-like or it’ll be Brandon in a walk.

Smart money is on AOC


18 posted on 12/29/2022 7:14:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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A lot more primaries than in 1912. Also, different convention rules. They threw everything they had to stop him (at first I was a Cruz backer due to Trump’s lack of record, doubts about his new pro-life stance, and donations to lefties like Ted Kennedy. Performance Trumps all.)

Their best chance is if they get DeSantis to run and make it one on one, like Ford/Reagan in ‘76 (even then PA and NY were set up to ensure that Reagan would get none of those delegates, that is different now, and they have normal primaries too). There is so much hubris out there that a half-dozen Liz Cheney-types will run to make noise, get attention, consideration as VP pick, or just practice for ‘28 or ‘32.

Trump is mostly pro-Ethanol requirements, so he can’t be attacked in Iowa over that. An Establishment candidate might get some traction in New Hampshire, but not enough. Trump CRUSHES in South Carolina.

If Trump wants the nomination, he gets it. If he goes Bull Moose, he will need some buts and bolts guys to build a national party around it with candidates at all levels where necessary (leave Republican MAGAs alone). Personally, I don’t think that will work. The patience (that will have to outlast Trump) to keep getting more MAGA candidates until you have a plurality has to be stuck to. The Establishment will act entitled until they are gone. Their numbers are shrinking. Nearly all the Reps who voted for Impeachment are gone. Kinzinger and Cheney now have to yap from the sidelines and on MSNBC.

This strategy needs discipline, but I think it is a better play than abandoning the Republican Party to the Establishment.


19 posted on 12/29/2022 7:15:53 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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What should we do when a majority of Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party says we can’t have him?" Conservative FIRST, republican second. Being an R, at the grass roots level, means having some small say GOP direction. We need to apply pressure to point the party in the Trump direction. To the point that, even if we fail, make it even more obvious that at the top, the party is run by deep state cabal Unipartiests.
20 posted on 12/29/2022 7:16:49 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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And the Bull Moose Party gave us Woodrow Wilson...


22 posted on 12/29/2022 7:18:27 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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28 posted on 12/29/2022 7:25:35 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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There are no Bull Moose vote counters.

So, it won't work today.

29 posted on 12/29/2022 7:26:48 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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Better figure something out quick-like or it'll be Brandon in a walk.

Better figure something out quick-like or it'll be Brandon in a walker.

30 posted on 12/29/2022 7:27:01 AM PST by BipolarBob (The party never stops until someone calls the cops.)
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Look at the idiot Freepers here on this site……

Which POTUS was as successful as Trump? Look at what Trump accomplished:

Gas price per gallon was about $2.30;
Inflation about 1.4%, mortgage rates were half of what they are now;
Unemployment was low before Covid and before Blue Governors shut everything down and we were in the midst of a V-shape recovery until January 22, 2021;
Tax decrease; tax laws promoted small businesses as well as large;
US enjoyed energy independence - No Green Agenda, no war on energy, No Paris Treaty;
No war in Ukraine, no threat of nuclear war, NATO paid its way;
China was quiet and we were winning the trade war;
US companies were bringing home the jobs due to well executed tax treatments;
Peace in the Middle East aka Abraham Accords; US Embassy moved to Jerusalem; and Iran was isolated;
Got three non-left “I don't know what a woman is” Supreme Court Justices on the bench allowing Roe vs Wade to be overturned; and
Finally, got control of the southern border.

Who the heck can accomplish the above in four years while being impeached twice and investigated by Obama's Weaponized Agencies? Yet we have Freepers who are so damn unappreciative they throw leadership talent like that away.

31 posted on 12/29/2022 7:28:05 AM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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I think this is being over-thought here. Trump alludes to it, lightly, as a warning to the RNC.

The RNC would probably like to win, at least a little bit.


32 posted on 12/29/2022 7:29:39 AM PST by odawg
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Depressing fall from grace.


34 posted on 12/29/2022 7:30:47 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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than win with Trump.

Win with Trump?

LOL!

The only people "winning with Trump" lately have been Democrats.

36 posted on 12/29/2022 7:32:37 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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In order to win in 2024, Trump must do a far better job of reaching out to the following demographics:

dead people
fake people
people in comas
imaginary people
people who moved away
duplicate people


37 posted on 12/29/2022 7:34:08 AM PST by enumerated ( )
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Trump is The Great Disrupter. “They” will not allow his nomination. (Both Rs and Ds.) He’s very bad for normal corrupt business as usual.

Trump, however, has a Big Ego (not necessarily a bad thing), and a Kew York City Real Estate Developer’s skills at dirty street fighting.

This tells me he WILL run — he’s an unstoppable runaway train, which is one of his endearing traits to many.

If he is denied the R nomination, he’ll run as an Indy, he’ll Perot us back into whoever replaces Biden. And THAT will restore single-party D rule.

That should finish us off.


39 posted on 12/29/2022 7:36:52 AM PST by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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