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There is No Defense to Hypersonic Missiles & Russia’s Plans to Expand
Armstrong Economics ^ | 26 Dec22 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 12/26/2022 6:59:31 AM PST by delta7

Russia announced yesterday that it will increase its military strength from 1 million to 1.5 million. The Western Press keeps putting out the propaganda that that this is all because Russia has lost momentum and many soldiers in Ukraine. I reported before that sources from Ukraine, not Russia, put the death toll at over 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers. That was also in the draft speech of the head of the EU, but it was removed to keep up the image that Ukraine is winning.

What is not being said here is that Poland has been instructed by the US to increase its military from 100,000 to 250,000 making it the largest force in NATO. It is only a 14-hour drive from Warsaw to Moscow. This in addition to NATO’s plans to incorporate Finland and Sweden, has also played a role in this decision.

The Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu declared that the country needs a force of 1.5 million “to guarantee the fulfillment of tasks to ensure Russia’s security.” China has about 2 million and the USA has about 1.4 million. North Korea has 1,280,000 active with another 600,000 in reserve. Belarus has an army of only 62,000 with 344,750 in reserve.

Currently in Russia, the regular draft, calls up 120,000 to 140,000 men twice a year for a one-year tour of compulsory service. What is becoming very obvious is that the West wants war. There is no desire for peace whatsoever. This has changed the game. The Western Press keeps just putting out propaganda about Ukraine winning, while it is ignoring the mobilization of NATO which is clearly anticipating war. This is not going to be just about Ukraine as we head into 2023. You have to be blind not to see that the West is clearly preparing for war. This is what Russia is now responding to. With Poland raising its army to 250,000, that presents a serious threat to Russia for the exceeds the active personnel in Belarus.

On top of all of this, Putin has wisely instructed that they should be studying how the weapons the US has been handing Ukraine and to regard these as valuable lessons to be learned during the fighting to modernize the armed forces. Thus, Ukraine has been an experiment to study the weapons systems of one’s opponent on both sides.

Putin also made it clear that Russia will start to deploy more hypersonic weapons, noting that the first warship equipped with state-of-the-art Zircon hypersonic missiles will be commissioned by the navy next month. There is no question that defense against Russia’s hypersonic weapons is not something that may be possible. Russia has been using some hypersonic missiles in Ukraine. It is believed among our sources that this may have been more to intimidate NATO and the United States. Obviously, the conventional wisdom has been that there is just no effective defense against hypersonic weapons. Hence, their use has been to intimidate the USA and NATO, but this does not seem to have succeeded……..


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It appears Vlad’s hypersonic missiles have no defense from the West…..the West’s preparations for war has given Vlad plenty of notice to crank up its unmatched production rates.
1 posted on 12/26/2022 6:59:31 AM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Are they faster than the speed of light?..............


2 posted on 12/26/2022 7:02:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: delta7

And how does the convicted felon Armstrong plan to monetize this post? Does Putin pay him a salary?


3 posted on 12/26/2022 7:06:15 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (CNN)
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To: Red Badger

Yah, this is all BS from the usual suspects — the MSM idiots who make up and then the ones who watch.

Yes, such missiles can zip across the world in record time. But, during that time they are blind — like a spacecraft returning from orbit. Big flaming bubble in front of any radar, etc.

So, coming in for the strike they are ballistic. Not hyper. Any ABM device can take them out — much like V1’s were vulnerable over London 70 years ago.

Of course, any ABM device has long been hated by the left-wing media ‘cause that gives grief to their sponsors in the communist countries.


4 posted on 12/26/2022 7:07:44 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: delta7

You have to be able to afford to build them.

Send 50x - 100x of conventional missiles/drones. Cheaper and too many will overwhelm defenses.


5 posted on 12/26/2022 7:08:41 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: delta7

SHILL.


6 posted on 12/26/2022 7:09:14 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: delta7

Well the West needs to hurry up and surrender to Putin. I think the 38 Munich conference would be a good model to follow.


7 posted on 12/26/2022 7:11:34 AM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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To: delta7
Pretty sure Hypersonic weapons don't have intercontinental range.

"The West" keeps tying the hands of administrations willing to develop "advanced weapons".

And NO, details can NOT be provided, but an example is the Neutron bomb.

It only takes one vote from the Senate Select Committee (4 Dem/4 GOP) to kill a program. (sometimes just one of their rogue staffers)

8 posted on 12/26/2022 7:14:24 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: delta7
“There is No Defense to Hypersonic Missiles & Russia's Plans to Expand”

If it was so, the kacaps wouldn't have to pay that dude and countless others for spreading that nonsense around.

“its unmatched production rates.”

Of what ?

9 posted on 12/26/2022 7:14:29 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: delta7
Russia announced yesterday that it will increase its military strength from 1 million to 1.5 million

because Russia is losing so badly


10 posted on 12/26/2022 7:19:08 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: delta7
Like most of Putin's claims of tech advancement, they are bogus. The truth is, the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missile is actually little more than a conventional air-launched ballistic missile.

How Russia fooled the world about its ‘hypersonic’ Kinzhal

In March of 2022, Russia’s Ministry of Defence announced the first operational use of the nation’s new Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missile in a strike against a weapons depot in Ukraine’s western Ivano-Frankivsk region. While this is the first operational use of this new Russian weapon, it’s not exactly the historic occasion it may seem. Russia’s Kinzhal may be hypersonic, but it’s certainly nothing new.

How Russia fooled the world about its ‘hypersonic’ Kinzhal Alex Hollings | August 19, 2022 In March of 2022, Russia’s Ministry of Defence announced the first operational use of the nation’s new Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missile in a strike against a weapons depot in Ukraine’s western Ivano-Frankivsk region. While this is the first operational use of this new Russian weapon, it’s not exactly the historic occasion it may seem. Russia’s Kinzhal may be hypersonic, but it’s certainly nothing new. The announcement was soon followed by alleged footage of the strike. Hypersonic is a term used to describe platforms that can travel at speeds in excess of Mach 5, or about 3,836 miles per hour, but the term has been adopted for advanced new weapons systems being developed all around the world. The Kinzhal does travel at hypersonic speeds, but it is not one of these advanced new weapons.

The truth is, the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missile is actually little more than a conventional air-launched ballistic missile with a design that dates back to the 1980s. It has benefited a great deal from both intentional and less-than-intentional misconceptions about this new class of weapons, often cited as a reason the United States is lagging behind Russia in a hypersonic arms race (that, as we’ve discussed before, isn’t quite what it seems either).

Hypersonic speed isn’t actually all that special, but there are new weapons that leverage hypersonic speeds to achieve objectives in new or different ways. The Kinzhal, however, just isn’t one of them.

At hypersonic speeds, air itself becomes the enemy as it impacts the vehicle, creating enough friction and pressure to damage or even incinerate most common aircraft and missile materials. The space shuttle, however, regularly exceeded Mach 25, or more than 17,500 miles per hour, during reentry. The Air Force’s current (and secretive) X-37B can also reach these blistering speeds. In fact, practically every ballistic missile and spacecraft mankind has ever launched had been and still is hypersonic in nature. In order to leave Earth, a rocket needs to travel at around 20 times the speed of sound, or 7.9 kilometers per second. (NASA)

That means all of the ICBMs in America’s nuclear stockpile, all of Russia’s Kinzhal missiles, and even Elon Musk’s Falcon 9 reusable rockets all share the distinction of being hypersonic… and in fact, Russia’s Kinzhal missile has more in common with those applications than it does with the new slew of “hypersonic weapons” nations like Russia, China, and the United States are competing to field.

The Kh-47M2 Kinzhal (Russian for Dagger) entered operational service in 2017, according to Russian statements made in 2018. It is not a new weapon, so much as a modified version of the ground-launched 9K720 Iskander—a short-range ballistic missile—with a new guidance system designed specifically for air-to-ground operations.

The 9K720 Iskander’s development began in 1988, but prolonged delays, brought about initially by the fall of the Soviet Union, prevented the first full flight test until 1998. A total of 13 test launches of the missile were conducted at Russia’s Kasputin Yar test range between 1998 and 2005, with the weapon finally entering operational service the following year, in 2006.

Like the Kinzhal, the Iskander missile achieves hypersonic velocities through a quasi-ballistic flight path that never departs the atmosphere, and it can maneuver throughout its trajectory to avoid being intercepted. The 9K720 Iskander ballistic missile and Kh-47M2 Kinzhal are indeed capable ballistic weapons, but they’re a far cry from the cutting-edge technology usually referenced in conversations about hypersonic missiles. The premise behind the Kinzhal missile is a pretty dated one—so much so that it shares a great deal in common with a 2006 NASA effort to leverage the Navy’s stockpile of retired AIM-54 Phoenix missiles for hypersonic flight testing.

https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/why-calling-russias-kinzhal-a-hypersonic-missile-is-a-stretch/

11 posted on 12/26/2022 7:19:11 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Red Badger

“Are they faster than the speed of light?”

Ever shoot a laser in fog? Lots of it in that part of the world.


12 posted on 12/26/2022 7:19:26 AM PST by BobL
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

That would be true, but if a volley of hypersonic missiles were launched against an Aircraft Carrier, would they still be considered expensive if a few million in missiles were to take out a multibillion-dollar ship loaded with aircraft and 5000 people.

The point is, yes hypersonic missiles are very expensive, but used against targets that are central to the enemy they are used against makes them cost effective.


13 posted on 12/26/2022 7:27:20 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: delta7

I remember reading up on why so many so many ships were sitting ducks in Pearl Harbor. It seems, back then, that the equivalent of the Neocons (the people who always underestimate the enemy and want war so bad, they can’t help themselves) were CONVINCED that the waters in Pearl Harbor were too shallow for Japanese air-dropped torpedoes to work...and so they were fat, smug, and happy, just as the Neocons in the West had been for most of the past 35 years (other than until very recently), when they essentially ended weapons development in the West, due to the PEACE DIVIDEND (oh, forgot about that, ehhh).

The problem was Japan, even though they looked funny, talked funny, and had slanty eyes, at least to the Neocons (the Neocons are ALWAYS racist towards their enemies), DID NOT end weapons development and came up with the necessary torpedo design to handle shallow water...and we then saw the cost of that.

So, people sit here, ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS as to what Russia’s weapons can do, and flat-out claim that Russian weapons cannot work or don’t exist, or are too rusty (don’t laugh, a babe here made that claim about their nukes), because we didn’t develop them, and because Russians are an inferior race with an economy the size of Grenada (or whatever they’re claiming now).


14 posted on 12/26/2022 7:33:24 AM PST by BobL
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To: G Larry

Actually, China has already tested an intercontinental hypersonic missile and the USA has confirmed it.

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2021/10/it-did-circle-globe-us-confirms-chinas-orbital-hypersonic-test/186407/


15 posted on 12/26/2022 7:33:34 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: BobL

Ever heard of adaptive optics?

https://www.army.mil/article/195650/army_developing_lasers_that_pierce_fog_dust_to_destroy_targets


16 posted on 12/26/2022 7:35:40 AM PST by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: delta7
Russian hyper-sonic missiles can also be fired from the air, making them harder to defend using fixed place installations like the Patriot.


17 posted on 12/26/2022 7:49:14 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: All

Nukes will fly before this Russia/Ukraine war is over.

It has become apparent the Globalist and Defense industry are itching for a fight with Russia.


18 posted on 12/26/2022 7:50:19 AM PST by Bailee
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To: Pox

“Ever heard of adaptive optics?”

Better than nothing, I guess. Still wouldn’t want to have my family’s survival depending on whether they work.


19 posted on 12/26/2022 7:51:24 AM PST by BobL
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To: delta7

Sure there is. It is to distribute one’s forces.

Tactics, Mr. Ryan. Naval Tactics.


20 posted on 12/26/2022 7:58:34 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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