Posted on 12/25/2022 2:26:42 PM PST by Timber Rattler
Ukrainians usually celebrate Christmas on Jan. 7, as do the Russians. But not this year, or at least not all of them.
Some Orthodox Ukrainians have decided to observe Christmas on Dec. 25, like many Christians around the world. Yes, this has to do with the war, and yes, they have the blessing of their local church.
The idea of commemorating the birth of Jesus in December was considered radical in Ukraine until recently, but Russia's invasion changed many hearts and minds.
In October, the leadership of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, which is not aligned with the Russian church and one of two branches of Orthodox Christianity in the country, agreed to allow faithful to celebrate on Dec. 25.
The choice of dates has clear political and religious overtones in a nation with rival Orthodox churches and where slight revisions to rituals can carry potent meaning in a culture war that runs parallel to the shooting war.
For some people, changing dates represents a separation from Russia, its culture, and religion. People in a village on the outskirts of Kyiv voted recently to move up their Christmas observance.
“What began on Feb. 24, the full-scale invasion, is an awakening and an understanding that we can no longer be part of the Russian world,” Olena Paliy, a 33-year-old Bobrytsia resident, said.
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The Azov Regimes move to change something as fundamental as Christmas for political reasons, reminds one of the Chinese Cultural Revolution - or dare say, Stalin’s purges
They are creating the new National Socialist Man!
Yeah because nazis were really big on making sure christmas was celebrated on the 25th...
Putin and Kirill are both New Soviet Men.
Beat me to it
Changing a religious tradition to make a political statement..where have I seen that before?
The Julian calendar was used by all Orthodox jurisdictions until 1924, so it isn’t Russia that is calling the shots on that. The change to the Gregorian calendar among some Orthodox (actually a modified Julian calendar) is a huge matter of contention between traditionalists and “modernists”. The churches of Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Greece, Cyprus, Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, and most of the Orthodox Church in America use the “new calendar.” The Church of Jerusalem, the Russian Orthodox Church, the Serbian Orthodox Church, and the Georgian Orthodox Church use the “old calendar.”
Strictly speaking, the only time such a matter can be decided is through an Ecumenical Council. That is one of the reasons the calendar issue is controversial. The Orthodox objected to Pope Gregory XIII making the calendar change outside of an Ecumenical Council. Some still do.
On the first day of Christmas, the US gave to me
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the second day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the third day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the fourth day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the fifth day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the sixth day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Six M777A2 howitzers
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the seventh day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Seven MK-19 automatic grenade launchers
Six M777A2 howitzers
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the eighth day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Eight M4 carbines
Seven MK-19 automatic grenade launchers
Six M777A2 howitzers
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the ninth day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Nine M16 rifles
Eight M4 carbines
Seven MK-19 automatic grenade launchers
Six M777A2 howitzers
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the tenth day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Ten M240 machine guns
Nine M16 rifles
Eight M4 carbines
Seven MK-19 automatic grenade launchers
Six M777A2 howitzers
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the eleventh day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Eleven M249 light machine guns
Ten M240 machine guns
Nine M16 rifles
Eight M4 carbines
Seven MK-19 automatic grenade launchers
Six M777A2 howitzers
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
On the twelfth day of Christmas, the US gave to me
Twelve M1126 Stryker armored vehicles
Eleven M249 light machine guns
Ten M240 machine guns
Nine M16 rifles
Eight M4 carbines
Seven MK-19 automatic grenade launchers
Six M777A2 howitzers
Five M107 175mm self-propelled guns
Four M1151A1B1 armored vehicles
Three M119A2 howitzers
Two Mark 48 torpedoes and
A Javelin in a Humvee
The irony is that the Soviet Union switched Russia over to the Gregorian calendar shortly after the revolution.
Novgorod is the oldest establishment in the region.
The Rurik dynasty came from Novgorod and Oleg of Novgorod founded the Kievan Russ.
So Kiev was established from the Novgorod Rurik dynasty.
Before that, it was nothing but a backwater outpost taken and retaken many times by numerous rulers/tribes.
Jan. 7 now will be a time in Ukraine to celebrate its lord and savior Stepan Bandera. Light up the swastikas, Timber!
Yeah, Russia and Putin are still communist. They have a communist 13% flat tax rate. Under Putin, Russia has been spending billions building churches and banned LGBT propaganda. Marriage is still between a man and woman and there still only two genders in Russia.
All you and your ilk do is lie and back the "liberal world order" which is the absolute mortal enemy of Christianity, American First nationalism and conservatism.
Everything you claim is true of Russia is true of Ukraine and more true of us under Biden.
Hell was created for people like you and neo-Nazis bastards running Ukraine.
Putin and Kirill were both KGB. Are you denying their status as New Soviet Men? Of course they were and of course they are. Neither has renounced any aspect of their past.
Do you propose that either has renounced their past history in the KGB or their loyalty to the USSR?
You’re wasting your time. If Hitler had built a few churches and banned homosexuality as well as invading countries, stealing children and opening concentration camps, the logic of the moron squad would be, it would’ve made him the right guy to side with in World War 2.
I know. But it is fun to corner these twits into denying the actual accomplishments of Putin and Kirill.
“The Orthodox objected to Pope Gregory XIII making the calendar change outside of an Ecumenical Council. Some still do.”
The Orthodox Churches have some beautiful traditions but the fact that they need Rome for an ecumenical council but Rome doesn’t need them only proves that they are in the wrong.
I like your song!
True, but Kiev came before Moscow.
Sheer stupidity
Russian Derangement Syndrome clouds your mind.
Russian Orthodox Church has always been a tool of the Russian state - even under Communism they were allowed to exist under state control.
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