Posted on 12/25/2022 2:50:50 AM PST by RandFan
So where do you hang out for Christmas: Moscow or St. Petersburg?
Link please.
The Donetsk Separatist Army Went To War In Ukraine With 20,000 Men. Statistically, Almost Every Single One Was Killed Or Wounded.
In nine months of brutal fighting, the army of the pro-Russian Donetsk People’s Republic in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region has buried or sent to the hospital as many men as it had in its entire pre-war army.
The separatist DPR began Russia’s wider war on Ukraine in February with around 20,000 men in six light infantry brigades. By November, the army had lost 3,746 killed in action and 15,794 wounded in action, according to the DPR’s ombudsman.
That’s 19,540 KIAs or WIAs. While many of the wounded undoubtedly returned to front-line service, many didn’t. And yes, the DPR army has expanded over the course of the nine-month wider war through the forced mobilization of thousands of men from the separatist state’s 2.3 million population.
But even if the DPR army doubled in size, losing half its ultimate manpower is still catastrophic. The U.S. Army assumes a unit becomes incapable of major combat after losing just 31 percent of its strength, according to the service’s Field Manual 101-5-1.
That the DPR army has suffered extreme casualties should come as no surprise. The separatist state is a puppet of Russia—and an impoverished one, at that. The Kremlin has equipped DPR fighters with outdated weapons and gear—Mosin rifles and T-62 tanks, for example—and sent them on dangerous missions without adequate support.
Russian leaders seem to view DPR men as cannon fodder. “They don't count us, they leave us,” one drunk Donetsk fighter complained in a video that went viral in August. “But I want to live."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/11/18/the-donetsk-separatist-army-went-to-war-in-ukraine-with-20000-men-statistically-almost-every-single-one-was-killed-or-wounded/?sh=202e023311c0
Forbes.
Yes the Patriot concept is “old”, however... its internals have been totally revamped with modern computer age chips and software. Because of that, thanks to its last iterations, the Patriot system is the best defensive system in the world right now.
The will destroy the missiles by sending MIG’s over Ukraine and when a missile takes one out it will get destroyed.
Using Russian reported casualty statistics.
You are not convincing me, or anyone, that this isn’t all bullish-t.
Your equation is falasicious and founded on profound ignorance
Brilliant. The Patriot system is solely defensive in nature, and is needed to keep the INVADING RUSSIANS from knocking out the Ukrainian power grid.
You know, power grids that keep things like heat, lighting, hospitals running, etc.
Knock the arrogant Zelinsky all you want, but Russia well deserves a nice crushing defeat if at all possible. I can't believe the number of (supposed) FReepers who back the re-formation of the USSR.
Look at Russian actions in February. Sending the VDV paratroopers to capture Hostimel and Kyiv and decapitate Ukraine.
That’s pretty good! My “ignorance” kept me away from the mRNA, too.
Tell me, where do you go to find the truth? It’s rarer than hen’s teeth on FR, anymore.
This is the way wars start. We’ve seen it before. But this is different. Even one nuclear explosion will enrage the recipients to the point where it can’t be stopped.
I am older than most of you here. And people older than me told me about World War II and how we should never, ever, go near that concept again.
Yes you could say something about your personal contacts in or of Ukraine but you don’t … not even on your about page which is just full of more Moscow perspectives. You protect your anonymity which is important for criminals and Russian trolls. You are just another anonymous loser who loves the 23- year dictator and his brutal invasions.
“Using Russian reported casualty statistics.”
Looks that way...I’ll grant that Russia should have bulked up either before the war, or once they knew they were no longer fighting Ukraine, but fighting Russia. As usual, Putin was slow to understand the abject hatred that the Neocons have for him.
“I can’t believe the number of (supposed) FReepers who back the re-formation of the USSR.”
Who, specifically, wants the USSR here? Please provide names and links.
We would have been able to stop this with Trump.
You said: Anyone who is against our involvement in this proxy war is a supporter of Putin.
We've been without a world war for so long that you youngsters haven't learned a thing. You think peace is automatic, the default mode. It isn't. It has to be bargained for and earned and relentlessly pursued. At the stage of nuclear warfare, more than ever before.
You start by not being on either side above rooting for your chosen winner.
Getting a SAM battery to reveal itself might be a job for explosive packed AN-2 drones.
“Look at Russian actions in February. Sending the VDV paratroopers to capture Hostimel and Kyiv and decapitate Ukraine.”
That’s been debated, and 30,000 troops was not nearly enough to take Kiev, and obviously the Russians knew it. But 30,000 troops was enough to tie up a far larger number of Ukrainian troops, and thus allow Russia to get established in the already-liberated parts of Donbass.
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