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Has NATO’s Strategy To Bleed Russia Backfired?
Sonar 21 ^ | December 23, 2022 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 12/24/2022 8:54:51 AM PST by Kazan

My short answer to the question — Yes! I received an interesting response to my request for opinions on what constitutes the “Endgame” in Ukraine from a man named Matt. Here is his analysis:

The end game is to diminish/weaken Russia. The US has determined they cannot fight and win a war against both China and Russia. The US and it’s allies have sought to pick off the weaker of the two. The longer the US bleeds out Russia, via Ukraine, the better. Not all NATO (think Germany) were onboard with the plan. Hence, NATO starts talks with Ukraine about joining. Such talk provoked a response from Russia. Blowing up Nordstream forced Germany fully on board. The US/NATO will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. NATO weakens Russia; US clears the decks to more capably deal with China; arms manufacturers make money, and politicians skim money here and there. The way the conflict is currently postured, this can go on for some time, all of which benefits US/NATO. Last thought, the EU will need to take laboring oar on rebuild. Current projections are $1 trillion and rising. EU will need to issue bonds. Interest rates currently too high. Plus, you get into problems between the rich northern countries, and poorer southern countries ((PIGS)). The US won’t publicly announce they win by weakening Russia, by taking away a Chinese ally, and saddling Europe with a generation of debt, but that seems to be happening. What do you think?

My response — “Matt, Thank you for taking the time to write something thoughtful. I think the facts on the ground contradict you. For example, the US economy is in recession with the added whammy of inflation. Russia’s economy is growing not shrinking. It is the United States that cannot supply Ukraine with an adequate supply of artillery rounds and HIMMARs. Russia by contrast is not running out of weapons/missiles. It continues to fire and hit targets in Ukraine. It is the US that is bleeding out.

Why do you believe that the US is so strong militarily? We no longer meet recruiting goals and the military leadership is more worried about proper pronouns rather than a competent military.”

I think Matt is correct observed that the original plan of the United States and NATO was to “bleed out” Russia. The phrase, “bleed out,” refers to an arterial wound that cannot be staunched. A person with such a wound will die within four minutes if the bleeding is not stopped. Only one little problem — Russia ain’t bleeding; it is NATO and the United States that are hemorrhaging.

The Wall Street Journal published a news item this week making this very point, Europe Is Rushing Arms to Ukraine but Running Out of Ammo:

Europe, home to some of the world’s largest weapons manufacturers, is struggling to produce enough ammunition for Ukraine and for itself, jeopardizing NATO’s defense capacity and its support for Kyiv, officials and industry leaders say.

A lack of production capacity, a dearth of specialized workers, supply-chain bottlenecks, high costs of financing and even environmental regulations are putting a brake on efforts to increase output, presenting the West and Ukraine with a fresh challenge for next year.

The United States and its European allies have been deceived by their use of military force over the last 30 years. They have never had to fight a peer nation with the capability to produce all of its own military equipment that is on par with what the West relies on. They have deployed their military forces against ill-equipped, poorly trained armies that lacked air power and effective artillery and tank forces. The United States and NATO were lulled into a state of complacency.

Compounding the problem was the decision of the West to shift much of its manufacturing capability to foreign countries. American can no longer do what it did in the wake of Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, when the United States switched its massive industrial base into manufacturing tanks, planes, ammunition, battleships and air craft carriers. Modern day America specializes in producing grotesquely expensive, unreliable weapons that take months and years to appear on a battlefield.

This also is an intelligence failure. It appears the CIA bought into the nonsense that Russia had a small, weak economy and would crumbled in the face of Western sanctions. A real analyst would have raised the fact that sanctions, historically, have been ineffective in forcing regime change. Cuba and Iran are primary examples. It looks like the CIA donned its cheerleading uniform, complete with Blue and Yellow pom poms, and parroted the lie that Russia could not produce the rockets, artillery shells and precision missiles to support a long war. We are ten months into Russia’s “Special Military Operation” and they continue to shred Ukraine’s troops and infrastructure like a lethal Energizer Bunny — those pesky Rooskies keep going and going.

We enter the New Year under a dark and dangerous cloud. The failure of the United States and NATO to stop Russia may lead the Western alliance to act with more desperation and recklessness. Russia, for its part, admitted as much this week and is taking steps to bulk up its forces in the event this escalates into a World War. I continue to pray for peace, but there are no Western leaders embracing that approach. They are pinning their hopes on getting rid of Vladimir Putin without taking a moment to consider that Putin’s replacement would likely be more nationalistic and less inclined to negotiate. We are living in an historic, epochal moment that likely signifies the beginning of the end of American dominance in world affairs.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cuba; democult; dontbelieve; fuhrerbunker1945; iran; itsacult; larryjohnson; liberalworldorder; northkorea; notcredible; prowarcult; putin; russia; russianlies; ukraine; ukrainetruththread; venezuela
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1 posted on 12/24/2022 8:54:51 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan
It's a cult


2 posted on 12/24/2022 8:57:51 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Kazan

If our strategy is to bleed out Russia, it will probably work as well as our strategy of bleeding out Vietnam with body counts and all that.


3 posted on 12/24/2022 9:00:08 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: JonPreston

God, imagine having that thing breathing in your face. Punishment well deserved.


4 posted on 12/24/2022 9:00:17 AM PST by dforest
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To: Kazan

Everybody knows that NATO is fighting Russia. But, if Russia were to damage a NATO country, the world would be shocked at their aggressive behavior. Those barbarians would really be asking for it then.


5 posted on 12/24/2022 9:00:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (No one is as asleep as the "woke". They define the term "useful idiot".)
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To: JonPreston

Disgusting. Especially that hag from New Haven.


6 posted on 12/24/2022 9:00:52 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Salvey

Appears to me that Russia is bleeding NATO


7 posted on 12/24/2022 9:04:29 AM PST by Roklok
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To: Salvey
Especially that hag from New Haven.

I've read articles that associate her with actual witches. I'll look around for one.

8 posted on 12/24/2022 9:05:33 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Kazan

The pro-Putin cult goes on and on.


9 posted on 12/24/2022 9:05:52 AM PST by devere
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To: JonPreston

Is that the Molinator he’s bowing to?

Or that hideous weirdo from what remains of Connecticut?


10 posted on 12/24/2022 9:06:29 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Kazan

Merry Christmas and this is a total b$hit article.

Start with the false premise that NATO can’t beat Russia and China so launched a strategy to bleed Russia.

How about Russia invaded Ukraine and NATO is super worried to have a victorious Russia moving its border West to Poland and then Germany?

How about Russia get the hell out of Ukraine and it won’t have to “bleed” anymore?

Plus all this about how great Russia is doing is bs. The Russian economy is suffering not to mention huge prolonged battlefield losses.

It’s fantasy to think everything that happens in this World is a big plan by our side.

Sometimes an invasion by a psychopath who has reduced numerous of his neighbors to rubble, is just an invasion.

When one looks back on the destruction Putin rains on neighboring countries, he probably will rank right up there as a butcher with Hitler and Stalin.

HIS plan is “So what if I kill tens of thousands of my own troops,in the end I’ll leave your country devastated and take the spoils”.

No one had a plan to “bleed” that murderous pig.


11 posted on 12/24/2022 9:06:58 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Kazan

Russian Military(RM): Our weapons are obsolete.

Vlad:Da

RM: We need better ones.

Vlad: Da

RM: This is what we want.

Vlad: I will set the elves to work and fund them.


12 posted on 12/24/2022 9:06:58 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Kazan
The endgame was to weaken Russia and the United States and Europe.

The beneficiary is China.

It is no coincidence President Biden has been compromised by China.

13 posted on 12/24/2022 9:07:19 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Regulator
Is that the Molinator he’s bowing to?

I can't get over the outstretched hands touching him. Like a twisted scene from the Last Supper with the Disciples touching Our Lord.

14 posted on 12/24/2022 9:08:47 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Kazan

Too early to tell. We’ll know by ~April ‘23.


15 posted on 12/24/2022 9:09:17 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Fiji Hill

The left turned absolute victory in Vietnam to defeat learn your history. That war was over and won. Then they removed Nixon and denied our ally supplies in the face of a huge tank assault.

Millions died as a result. And that’s just what fools on the right are now trying to do in Europe.


16 posted on 12/24/2022 9:09:35 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: JonPreston

It’s a cult. A socialist front group for absolute corruption. Satanic. Still though Putin is evil, so there’s that. In professional wrestling it would be like 2 bad guys in the ring trying to conquer each other. And one of them pretends to be our friend and the other bad guy used to be a friend of our bad guys. A massive collection of noxious destruction.


17 posted on 12/24/2022 9:09:42 AM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Trumpet 1
A massive collection of noxious destruction.

A near perfect description.

18 posted on 12/24/2022 9:13:13 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Kazan

“...signifies the beginning of the end of American dominance in world affairs...”

Translation... the end of the degenerate, woke, Marxist homosexual cabal operating from Washington, District of Congo.


19 posted on 12/24/2022 9:15:07 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Kazan

But if it is China’s strategy to use the US as a proxy (by their special relationship with Joe) to bleed Russia’s military dry, depleting their presence in eastern Russia, and at the same time make the American’s use all their stockpiles, it is working quite well.


20 posted on 12/24/2022 9:16:02 AM PST by The Free Engineer
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