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41 House Democrats File Bill to Bar Donald Trump from 2024 Eligibility
Breitbart ^ | 15 December 2022 | WENDELL HUSEBØ

Posted on 12/16/2022 6:02:54 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Thank You Rush

Rhode Island is corrupted to the core.................


61 posted on 12/16/2022 7:43:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Sarcazmo

I think so too. I wasn’t crazy about the idea, ok, not at all yesterday, but woke up today and found myself chuckling about how tongue in cheek the whole things was about the cards.


62 posted on 12/16/2022 7:44:04 AM PST by vivenne
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To: Highest Authority
It’s time to deep six the deep state!

All leadership positions in all federal agencies should be regularly rotated, to prevent the establishment of fiefdoms by the swamp dwellers.

63 posted on 12/16/2022 7:51:43 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Red Badger

Cool another banana republic moment for the left!!


64 posted on 12/16/2022 8:00:30 AM PST by MrRelevant
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To: sport

Shhhhhhhhhh, or the GOPe Traitors will hear you. LOL.


65 posted on 12/16/2022 8:03:47 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Red Badger


66 posted on 12/16/2022 8:49:13 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Red Badger

Cicillinefag will eventually face a firing squad for Treason against the US Constitution. Since when is Congress the Judge, Jury and Executioner??? The prohibition on Bills of Attainder is very clear and there has been no due process afforded, no trial and no conviction on the BS made up charges.


67 posted on 12/16/2022 8:57:18 AM PST by jpp113
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To: Red Badger

“”Rhode Island is corrupted to the core””

I stay in touch with a couple of old friends from high school and there is one former classmate we avoid - she lives in Rhode Island. We found out she didn’t appreciate receiving our emails about the corrupt dems and decided to take her off our contact list. I guess liberalism is a disease in RI...we didn’t know that!! Everyone asks “whatever became of ????” and we say, “we don’t know.”


68 posted on 12/16/2022 9:25:14 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
Everyone asks “whatever became of ????” and we say, “we don’t know.”

I would say, "She was assimilated by the BORG."..............

69 posted on 12/16/2022 9:31:23 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
"Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), Pramila Jayapal (D-WA)"

Both of whom objected to Trump's Electoral Vote Count Jan. 6, 2017.

Jayapal simple-mindedly objected to the Georgia slate's electoral certification.

Sh@b00n Lee objected to the Michigan slate due to "Russian interference".

70 posted on 12/16/2022 12:25:05 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Red Badger

41 House Democrats File Bill to Ignore the Constitution


71 posted on 12/16/2022 12:26:03 PM PST by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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72 posted on 12/16/2022 3:13:11 PM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: red; Fred Nerks

This “bill will go nowhere.

Te so called insurrection was a fabrication and a false flag operation hosted by the FBI who had embedded agents in the crowd to stir up the small crowd of about 1000 people out of the million who attended the protest that day.

This bill is barred by the Constitution as a Bill of Attainder:

“Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Supreme Court cases have given “broad and generous meaning to the constitutional protection against bills of attainder” by interpreting it to ban not only legislation imposing a death sentence, as the term was used at English common law, but also legislation that imposes other forms of punishment on specific persons without trial...........”

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S9-C3-2/ALDE_00013187/


73 posted on 12/16/2022 3:28:57 PM PST by Candor7
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"Why do they need a bill if the 14th Amendment disqualifies Trump for president for participating in insurrection? Is it because they are trying to get it on the record so at least a few states can claim that the fedgov has it on record and cannot legally put Trump on the ballot? Is it because the justice system isn’t going to come thru for them?"

The latter. Volokh, for all his flaws, had the right take on 14A Sec3:

The 14th Amendment Disqualification Gambit

"Can Congress, for example by majority vote on a concurrent resolution, simply declare that Trump has engaged in an insurrection and disqualify him from ever holding the office of president again? That would be a neat trick in that it would avoid the difficulties of winning conviction in a Senate trial by a two-thirds majority.

In the Washington Post, Daniel Hemel walks through why this is a strained interpretation of Section Three and why it would be a bad idea. I recommend checking it out:

"There’s a problem with this theory, though. A provision in the original 1787 Constitution — Article I, Section 9, Clause 3 — prohibits Congress from passing any “bill of attainder.” A bill of attainder is a law declaring a specific person to be guilty of a crime and prescribing a punishment. The bill of attainder clause reflects the principle that the judiciary, not the legislature, is responsible for adjudicating guilt and meting out justice."

Be that as it may, a law barring Trump from future officeholding that is passed by a simple majority of the House and Senate would raise serious constitutional questions. Trump’s defenders would no doubt argue that the law violates the bill of attainder clause, and unlike many of Trump’s legal arguments, this one would be far from frivolous. Trump could cloak himself in the authority of Chase, an outspoken abolitionist, racial progressive and original member of Abraham Lincoln’s “team of rivals.”

Myles Lynch has a draft article working through the history of how Section Three has actually been applied.

A Senate impeachment trial may not adhere to the same standards of due process as an ordinary judicial proceeding, but there is a reason why the punishment of disqualification can be applied only after a trial and a conviction before a court with a high hurdle for a guilty verdict. "Insurrection" is not a political offense like "high crimes and misdemeanors." It is a criminal act in violation of the criminal code and capable of being adjudicated in ordinary criminal courts. If Section Three is to be applied, then it should follow a criminal conviction for engaging in an insurrection.

If instead partisan majorities can simply declare that individuals have participated in, encouraged, or given aid to insurrections, then it is not hard to imagine how the scope of "insurrection" could grow, the evidence that an individual had actually engaged in one could be thin to none, and how this power could be turned against political opponents. How many Democratic politicians would a Republican majority in Congress be willing to disqualify from holding future office given their expressed views on various protests turned riots? It would be better not to find out."


74 posted on 12/16/2022 3:29:11 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Candor7

14 seconds apart, wow.


75 posted on 12/16/2022 3:31:05 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Red Badger

I will remain silent for a while.
As in speechless.


76 posted on 12/16/2022 5:26:34 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Deplorable American1776

41 members of the National Association of the American Communist Party.


77 posted on 12/16/2022 8:07:58 PM PST by matthew fuller (March 19, 2023- International Global Warming Appreciation Day.)
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To: StAnDeliver

Its Divine Providence at Work! LOL.


78 posted on 12/17/2022 1:04:33 AM PST by Candor7
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To: Red Badger

Are the people most afraid of Trump the same ones behind the real coup that’s going on?


79 posted on 12/17/2022 6:06:13 AM PST by GOPJ (Is China hiring governemtn officials based on sexual weirdo kink? I don't think so...)
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To: Red Badger

I suspect it is highly unconstitutional - with such a point being lost on the Dems...

“No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.”

A bill of Attainder is legislative punishment without someone first having received due-process... specifically when the legislation is directed at an individual.


80 posted on 12/26/2022 7:10:06 PM PST by fremont_steve
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