Posted on 12/14/2022 4:57:39 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Seventy countries and globalist institutions lined up Tuesday to pledge an additional one billion euros ($1.1 billion) in emergency winter aid to Ukraine, responding to personal pleas from President Volodymyr Zelensky to help his country withstand the winter ahead.
The promises came as France hosted a global meeting in its capital to discuss what could be delivered between now and March to maintain water, food, energy, health and transport during Ukraine’s typically frigid winter.
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“Biden is pure scum.”
Agree, but he seems VERY POPULAR with some people here, particularly with regard to Ukraine.
Only a Billion?
From 70 countries?
Things are slowing down
The Zelensky’s are going to have to cut back on their heating bill
Biden should send them some drag queens and kids.
That’s a good point. And to my knowledge, Patriots aren’t useful for anything other than ballistic missiles.
It is stupid and will get people killed.
“That’s a good point. And to my knowledge, Patriots aren’t useful for anything other than ballistic missiles.”
...and expensive missiles, if the $3M per round is the actual cost. Russia just pulled 1500 bi-planes out of their warehouses (Russia keeps old military hardware because they don’t let MBAs tell them it’s obsolete). The fear is that they’ll convert them to drones, load them up with explosives, and force the Patriots to shoot them down...thereby leaving the Neocons with a bunch of empty Patriot batteries.
And all at a cost of next to nothing for Russia.
You are arguing that hearsay should have the same weight as a signed contract in court. Good luck with that, if you ever try it for real.
“You are arguing that hearsay should have the same weight as a signed contract in court. Good luck with that, if you ever try it for real.”
It’s a bit more than hearsay, but trust me, Putin does not plan to go to the World Court to finally pacify Ukraine.
With Biden and the Democrats, we get both inflation & war simultaneously; just waiting on the "permanent ruin"...
In other words, Ukraine never violated any treaty. Russia did violate a signed treaty. And why? When all the BS is boiled away, they did so because Ukraine had the temerity to depose Yanukovych, a russian asset, and choose to be independent of russian influence.
there would be no need for NATO if Russia wasn’t such a recurring menace to its neighbors
THAT’S why NATO is still here, and why it keeps growing
it is what it is, deal with it
“In other words, Ukraine never violated any treaty. Russia did violate a signed treaty. And why?”
You’re arguing with the wrong person, you need to take it to the Kremblin. I’m just telling you the reality as the Russians see it, at this point.
By the way how’s that war you guys are trying to ignite in Kosovo? Hint: Bombing Belgrade again from 30,000 feet won’t work as well this time as my sources tell me that Serbia now has S-400s, with Russian operators.
“THAT’S why NATO is still here, and why it keeps growing”
We’ll see if it keeps growing, particularly after the Neocons show the world that their air force is helpless against S-400s.
NATO “expanded” solely thru voluntary membership - no misery, no lives were lost, and no destruction occurred ...
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Thd real dispute is between ideologies. NATO membership is indeed voluntary; but its members are spreading socialism, environmental extremism, and LGBT all over the world, which makes it more dangerous than a Russia fighting in its own backyard.
except Russia isn’t fighting just “in its own backyard”
it’s doing its dirty work by invading other countries “backyards” ... that’s the problem, and that’s why NATO is still needed
During the German reunification, NATO promised not to expand into East Germany. That promise was kept. To this day there are no NATO bases in the former East Germany. This was before Russia collapsed, not after.
Gorbachev himself said as much, Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says “No”.
Will the Patriot radar move during the Russian reaction time interval between reconnaissance and strike? I have my doubts.
Wikipedia says that a Patriot battery costs about $1 billion. The radar is the thing that makes these so expensive. Each of its missile costs about $3 million. The suicide drones are maybe $10,000 each. Now do the math ...
The most modern missiles Patriot system use have a maximum reach of some 60 kilometer (37 miles). One battery can thus cover a bubble with a 120 kilometer diameter. It may be good for Kiev or Odessa but is nothing that will solve the general military problem Ukraine has.
The Russian forces are superior in technology, personnel and fire power. There is no chance, and never has been, for Ukraine to win that match. No Wunderwaffen, British marines with sea drones or U.S. Patriot systems, will change those basic facts.
What the hell is this “you guys” strawman? Please point to where I took sides with Kosovo against Serbia (or, save your time, because I never did). Why are you pulling in irrelevant (and false) arguments from other conflicts?
“Please point to where I took sides with Kosovo against Serbia (or, save your time, because I never did).”
Pretty much everyone on who supports the Neocon War in Ukraine supported the bombing of Serbia, so safe bet. And even more, your friends may get to bomb Serbia again!
Not my friends. Not me. Bark up some other tree.
And yet the Z-bots still contend this is not a proxy war between Russia and the US Feral Government.
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