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Republican support for Trump 2024 run collapsing, poll shows
New York Post ^ | December 13, 2022 | Mark Moore

Posted on 12/13/2022 8:28:46 AM PST by karpov

GOP backing for former President Donald Trump’s third consecutive White House bid has fallen apart over the past several months, with most Republican voters saying they’d prefer another candidate to carry on his policies in 2024, according to a poll released Tuesday. ​

While 31% of Republican and Republican-leaning independents want Trump, 76, to run again in two years, 61% say they would rather have another GOP standard-bearer, the USA Today/Suffolk University survey found. ​

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, 44, is their preferred choice.

DeSantis, who cruised to re-election Nov. ​8, leads Trump by 23 percentage points — 56% to 33% — in a head-to-head primary matchup, the poll shows. ​

Nearly two-thirds of Republican and GOP-leaning voters (65%) say the governor should run for the White House in 2024, with just 24% saying he shouldn’t.​

“Republicans and conservative independents increasingly want Trumpism without Trump,” David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center​, told USA Today.

Trump, who is facing state and federal investigations over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and for keeping classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort, has seen enthusiasm among Republicans for a third White House try plummet in recent months, falling from 60% support in July to 56% in October to 47% now.

The former president has also seen his favorability rating fall among the Republican faithful — skidding from 75% in October to 64% in December.

In a hypothetical 2024 matchup, Trump lags behind President Biden by 47% to 40%, the poll found.

But DeSantis tops Biden 47% to 43% in a hypothetical 2024 election matchup.

The survey also showed that Biden’s approval rating has improved slightly, climbing a point to 46% from October, while his unfavorable rating fell a point to 50%.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: karpov

WOW - the ‘polls’ have been showing that off and on for over 6 years...


21 posted on 12/13/2022 8:46:14 AM PST by GOPJ (IF OLD twitter management had stood up to Homeland & FBI goons they's be'hurt 7 ways from Sunday'.)
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To: HamiltonJay
So a poll of “republican leaning independents” is our standard now?

We can't win elections without them.

If we just polled FReepers, Trump would win by 90%. Unfortunately, you need more than FReepers to win elections.

22 posted on 12/13/2022 8:46:58 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: hoagy62
Y’all can’t HAVE Trumpism without Trump!

Fair point. So I suppose a better way to say it is that people want a lot of the policies Trump supports without all the other stuff that goes into "Trumpism."

23 posted on 12/13/2022 8:47:36 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Wilderness Conservative
No, it’s support for the GOP that has plunged.

Exactly!

24 posted on 12/13/2022 8:47:56 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
If the poll is a teeny-bit accurate, then the barrage of Never-Trump messaging from RINO leaders might be working.

It's the barrage of losing elections that is changing things.

25 posted on 12/13/2022 8:48:17 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: karpov

The Republican party DOES NOT WANT Mr. Trump to be its nominee.
Exactly how its leadership decides to accomplish this remains to be seen, but my guess is that they will keep him off the primary ballots by any means possible.

Time will tell.


26 posted on 12/13/2022 8:48:21 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: karpov

Flag title as bull$it!


27 posted on 12/13/2022 8:49:06 AM PST by pacificus
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To: karpov

Have the liberals and Fox news announced that Biden has won a second term yet?


28 posted on 12/13/2022 8:49:47 AM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: Honcho
The real question is will Trump run as an independent if he loses the primaries and how many votes will he take with him if he does.

Never underestimate Trump's -- or the Republicans overall -- ability to screw up a winnable race.

If Trump runs, the left's fraud machine coupled with his pushing away Republican voters will ensure a loss.

If Trump runs as an independent -- which I'm convinced he would do if he lost the nomination -- Republicans will welcome President Newsom.

29 posted on 12/13/2022 8:50:51 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: Drew68

Sorry, but this is a Push Poll story... nothing more.

Make or create a poll to say what you want, report it with the intent of influencing others...

This is nonsense.

Nomination isn’t decided by independents, though they can have some say in open primary states.. its chosen by the party members.... This poll is just gaslighting.


30 posted on 12/13/2022 8:51:56 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Regulator
The merry ballot thieves will basically roll him EVERYWHERE except Florida. Reference: Kari Lake.

Keri Lake lost her election. Ron DeSantis won his in a massive 20 point landslide.

Trump is the only one with a pair BIG ENOUGH to stomp these SOBs.

What state that Trump lost in 2020 does he flip in 2024? And he needs to flip THREE of them!

He can't even flip Georgia. He's poison in Georgia which is why Walker asked him to stay away from the runoff, and Trump agreed.

And if the GOP candidate can't win Georgia then seriously, what path to the White House does he have?

Answer: Donald Trump has no path to the White House.

31 posted on 12/13/2022 8:52:44 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: karpov

I haven’t lost one iota of trust in Donald J. Trump!!!


32 posted on 12/13/2022 8:52:55 AM PST by ontap
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To: hoagy62

We’re going to have to eventually. The guy is 76!!!!!! We have 10 years at most left. I think his parents died in their 80’s.


33 posted on 12/13/2022 8:53:40 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 democratic )
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To: Honcho

> The real question is will Trump run as an independent if he loses the primaries... <

Oh, my. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen. It would be a disaster, something like how former president Teddy Roosevelt’s independent run in 1912 gave the country Woodrow Wilson.

There is an old saying. Do not do what your opponent wants you to do. And the Democrats would love to see Trump run as an independent. Of course this is all idle speculation, as I don’t believe Trump has mentioned it.


34 posted on 12/13/2022 8:54:02 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
The "barrage of Never-Trump messaging from RINO leaders" isn't the cause. It is Trump's own words and statements that people are reading/hearing for themselves that are doing this.

"DeSanctimonious" and going after Youngkin because his name "sounds Chinese" alienated a lot of people, and it was a completely self-inflicted wound.

35 posted on 12/13/2022 8:54:08 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: karpov

The only term limits being discussed (or implemented) is holding Trump to one term. I’m getting sick of it.


36 posted on 12/13/2022 8:54:41 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: HamiltonJay
Nomination isn’t decided by independents, though they can have some say in open primary states.. its chosen by the party members.... This poll is just gaslighting.

Then God help us if the party chooses Donald Trump because he will lose.

37 posted on 12/13/2022 8:55:08 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Drew68

Don’t assume Trump supporters are automatically going to support desantis. They won’t.


38 posted on 12/13/2022 8:58:28 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: Drew68

Trump’s biggest problem is that the middle of the road Republicans and Independents HATE him.
I have witnessed it first hand in my office. White middle aged males who have voted Republican for years did not vote for Trump in 2020. They literally left the spot on the ballot blank. It is a personal issue. They just DO NOT LIKE HIM.


39 posted on 12/13/2022 8:58:31 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Honcho
I don't think Trump will run as an independent. But I do think that if he loses, he may well not endorse whatever other Republican won the nomination. If he does, it will probably be a very weak, backhanded endorsement that will imply he doesn't really care if his supporters vote for the nominee or not.

I do hold out a slim hope that he could pivot, get the keynote address at the Republican Convention, and come out with a blazing endorsement for the nominee. It would likely help his own popularity immensely within the GOP if he did.

But that's a slim hope.

40 posted on 12/13/2022 8:59:06 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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