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Pentagon gives Ukraine green light for drone strikes inside Russia
Times UK ^ | 12/9/2022 | Michael Evans, Marc Bennetts

Posted on 12/12/2022 5:55:21 AM PST by PK1991

The Pentagon has given its tacit endorsement of Ukrainian attacks inside Russian territory and no longer fears such operations could lead to a “dramatic” Russian escalation, The Times reported on Friday, citing unnamed US defense officials.

The US position appears to only be based on the fact that up to this point, Russia hasn’t responded to attacks on its territory with nuclear weapons or by attacking NATO countries.

The Times report reads: “Moscow’s revenge attacks have to date all involved conventional missile strikes against civilian targets. Previously, the Pentagon was warier of Ukraine attacking Russia because it feared the Kremlin would retaliate either with tactical nuclear weapons or by targeting neighboring NATO nations.”

The report came after Ukrainian drone attacks hit Russian air bases deep inside Russian territory, including one that killed three Russian soldiers and damaged two Russian bombers. Following the attacks, Russian missiles pounded Ukrainian energy infrastructure, worsening the already dire situation for millions of Ukrainian civilians who are without power and heat in freezing temperatures.

Russia didn’t start launching large-scale attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure until October, after the truck bombing of the Kerch Bridge, which connects Crimea to the Russian mainland. US officials previously said that they support Ukrainian attacks on Crimea.

The Times report said that the US doesn’t want to publicly give Ukraine the greenlight to attack targets inside Russia. In public comments, US officials have said they are not “encouraging” or “enabling” Ukrainian strikes inside Russian territory. But a US defense official said that it’s up to Ukraine where they attack and that they have limited restrictions on using US-provided weapons.


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To: Jumper

eliminating some DNC city strongholds so the voting equation changes - he can start with Washington, DC

Why remove an ally of his??


61 posted on 12/12/2022 9:04:23 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: linMcHlp

USA should only send to Democrat Run states and cities

- electrical generating equipment
- medical supplies
- temporary shelter supplies

Immediate Cease Fire


62 posted on 12/12/2022 9:06:47 AM PST by al baby (Yes he did he said how come i wasnt invited )
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To: xzins; PK1991; P-Marlowe; EEGator; PCPOET7; Flick Lives; RinaseaofDs; Chauncey Gardiner; ...

Evidently, any attacked country has the right to launch defensive drone attacks against invading forces.
Ukraine uses its own modified Russian drones to hit military air bases in Russia from which many jets are launched to hit deep inside Ukraine with missiles.

Who on earth can oppose such common sense and logic?
Ah yes, I forgot the “woke people” seem to imply only Russia is allowed to hit Ukrainian civilian / electric infrastructure...
Again, Ukraine is not aiming at civilian infrastructure in Russia, we are talking about military air bases! Ukraine has recently hit Russia with 3 missiles, while Russia hits Ukraine with an average of 50000 bombs every-single-day!

I dream about the day when we in the west will start to copycat the Ukraininan will to defend its BORDERS!!
Long live BORDERS and respect for BORDERS and people who respect BORDERS!

Russia, keep YOUR troops within YOUR borders, and stop trespassing OTHERS borders.

We also need a border and walls to stop the illegal invasion coming from Mexico.

Respect OUR borders and respect OTHERS borders.
Sovereignty is the only thing that matters.


63 posted on 12/12/2022 9:18:34 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: DesertRhino
The US position appears to only be based on the fact that up to this point, Russia hasn’t responded to attacks on its territory with nuclear weapons or by attacking NATO countries.

“I was afraid of the bear I encountered in the woods, because it has long claws and big sharp teeth that could kill me. But after I waved my hand in front of its nose and it didn’t bite me, I decided there was nothing to fear. I think I’ll stick my head in its mouth now since I know for sure that it won’t harm me.”

There’s a first time for everything, and deciding that an adversary won’t use nukes just because they haven’t used them yet is the height of illogical stupidity. By their nature, nuclear weapons are kind of a one-time deal, so there’s no history to rely on here. Once the first data point comes in, it’s over.

64 posted on 12/12/2022 9:27:41 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Our money, our military weapons, our training, and Turkish drones.

Nothing above helps the US border.
The US should mind its business.


65 posted on 12/12/2022 9:28:16 AM PST by EEGator
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To: USA-FRANCE
Evidently, any attacked country has the right to launch defensive drone attacks against invading forces.

Absolutely agree 100%

Just remember that weapon supply lines are fair game, meaning Russia has every right to strike inside NATO to prevent weapons from entering Ukraine.

The US hit Iranians for supplying weapons to ISIS.

66 posted on 12/12/2022 9:37:03 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Well crap, I clicked the link and it was an archive of Wikileaks. So now I wait for a letter or visit from people I didn’t want to meet or hear from, ever again.

Everyone, please advise when your link touches Wikileaks in any way. Some of us are in legal jeopardy. Wikileaks contains (so I have been advised) information which remains under government classification. Anyone with a past or present security clearance is violating their terms if they access such information in any manner without authorization. Makes no difference if the information is public, the DIS only sees and cares about what clearance holders do.

What a way to start the week.


67 posted on 12/12/2022 9:49:37 AM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: JustaTech

Yes I see in the text a reference to Wikileaks but I clicked first and read the fine print later. So in this case I have no one to blame but myself.

Just for future reference though, it would be nice if a warning was prominent next to the link.

It’s an archive and the link itself gave no clue, so at least I have some defense.

Can’t wait to see how the rest of this week goes :(


68 posted on 12/12/2022 9:55:04 AM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: PK1991

This thing will get out of hand and we will be lucky to live through it......


69 posted on 12/12/2022 10:06:10 AM PST by Bobalu (Elon should buy the Washington Post—and turn it into a newspaper.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

I think that saying we approve means we are running the war. We should not be putting are two cents in on anything unless we go all in and have a declaration OF WAR. This is a situation where realistically we are not going to declare war on Russia. The whole escalation to nuclear annihilation comes into play. sometimes there are no good answers or remedies for international situations especially when war is involved.


70 posted on 12/12/2022 10:10:58 AM PST by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: PK1991

Big Big mistake.


71 posted on 12/12/2022 10:11:14 AM PST by Vinnie ( L g Brandon)
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To: PK1991

Wonder when, Russia will get one of their allies to launch drones against our Pentagon and White House.


72 posted on 12/12/2022 10:19:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave ((Truth is hate speech to those, who hate the truth!) (clintonh8r))
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To: USA-FRANCE

“ Respect OUR borders and respect OTHERS borders.”

Literally no one, anywhere, respects the U.S. borders.

The U.S. government doesn’t even respect them.


73 posted on 12/12/2022 10:30:21 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Erik Latranyi

What did we do? Flail around like a man who has a dozen ants on him? What has changed in Afghanistan, or within the US that is positive, or makes sure it can’t happen again?

Answer is, we proved how ineffective our power is, and import many thousands of the same people who hate us. Maybe millions of them judging by the State of the Union.


74 posted on 12/12/2022 10:50:35 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: metmom

It’s not our place to give permission for another country to do anything in a war they are in with another.

You are correct.


75 posted on 12/12/2022 10:51:54 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: lodi90

IF that happens, will it not be our fight alone?


76 posted on 12/12/2022 10:52:38 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: PK1991

Obviously Russia has far more power to retaliate than Ukraine has to attack.

This change in policy is just another way the scum-on-top are sacrificing Ukraine to indulge their anti-Russian fanaticism.


77 posted on 12/12/2022 10:57:17 AM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: lodi90

There is immense strength shown in the practice of patience. We pay a lot of money to our ambassadors, we have a lot of money to bribe, cajole and reward. Violence begets violence, not peace.

The ONLY reason there was a time of peace after WW2 was not because of power or fear. It was a time to rebuild, and nobody had the infrastructure to oppose Pax Americana. At least not until the Soviets and the Chinese (Mao and Stalin) probed the limits of our patience. We spent treasure and blood trying to contain them, and more popped up. We won the ability to conduct an endless war in the name of uniformity.

Isn’t it time we returned home and rebuilt the US? Lay down our arms in the world, and build the capability to do what we had to do in #2?

Today, we couldn’t oppose German forces if they were as they were in the 1940’s. We could pound them into dust, but only until our bankers decided to cut off our streams of revenue and parts.

We are a cardboard power, we were sliced and diced by box cutters, yet still pretend to be as strong as iron, and as deep as our former Faith.

I love this country, but it is a time to retrench, to build friendships and put up borders and barriers to tyranny and invasion of home and hearth. That includes placing the LGBTQueers back in a box, and kick the blm movement back to the gates of hell where it was birthed. FIRST things first. Clean up government, and hang the traitors.


78 posted on 12/12/2022 11:04:51 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: JustaTech
I said:
hint from wikileaks:
Link: archive.ph

If it helps the wikilink is no longer active.
i could look for where it is now. But I thought this was good enough
How could I post it so you can read it and not touch a site you're not supposed to view?
79 posted on 12/12/2022 11:12:41 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: xzins

Any question the US isn’t running Ukraines war?


80 posted on 12/12/2022 11:38:06 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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