Posted on 12/11/2022 6:55:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
A full-blown “major war” between Russia and the West could possibly break out over Ukraine, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg warned on Friday.
Commenting on the state of play ten months since Russia mounted a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said that it is a “fateful time for Europe” and that things could “go horribly wrong” and spill over from a proxy into a direct conflict between Russia and the NATO alliance.
Speaking with Norwegian public broadcaster NRK, Stoltenberg said: “I fear that the war in Ukraine will get out of control, and spread into a major war between NATO and Russia.”
The former Norwegian prime minister said that he is “confident” that such an eventuality could be avoided, noting the build-up of NATO forces in Central Europe.
While Ukraine is not a member of the alliance and therefore not guaranteed protection, Stoltenberg continued: “[Vladimir Putin] knows it’s one for all, and all for one. NATO’s most important task is to prevent full-scale war in Europe, and that is something we work on every single day.”
On possible negotiations for peace, Stoltenberg said: “At some point, conversations are useless. Putin had decided to use force and power. What helps is supporting Ukraine militarily. It is only a strong Ukraine that leads to peace.”
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Russia is getting it’s ass kicked by the fourth rate military of a fifth rate nation and it’s going to take on NATO?
Yeah, right.
I’m good with that.
Stoltenberg is just a puppet, it’s those currently running the US security establishment and US foreign policy.
They can be either party. Biden is just another puppet playing his role, it’s the others who are calling the shots.
Andddddd here comes McNarma’s new morons.
NATO is discussing sending troops into western Ukraine. We already have people there.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/11/14/us-quietly-announces-new-ukraine-command-with-3-star-general/
We have basically been commanding the war. We and the bad tooth Brit idiots have been supplying and coordinating attacks inside Russia already. We sunk their largest warship, blew up their pipeline, bombed their bridge and airbase. Nobody on our side has any kind of reverse gear, and Russia now sees an existential threat.
Our high level psycho military leaders felt cheated by the end of the USSR and think they missed their big fight. It was fun to shoot down Iraqi jets, etc, but what they literally wanted was their envisioned “short and sharp” war with F-15s dogfighting red star MiGs, to storm Crimea and make it a navy base. And in their neocon fantasy, Russia will go home in shameful defeat and install a WEF/DC approved puppet.
It’s hard to believe, but DC actually DOES want direct war with Russia. They are gambling that Russia will not wake up one day and decide we cannot be appeased with anything but their capitulation. They will look at our homosexual Colonels dressed in dog mask and leading his adjudant around in a dog collar. They will see our care and concern for trannies etc, and they will decide a nuclear Pearl Harbor is the answer and they can get away with it.
Times are more dangerous than I think we realize.
Except this time they’re in charge.
NATO, outside of the nukes, is a shell of its former self. Without US involvement, NATO doesn’t have the forces to fight and defeat the Ruskies.
Well we currently have a Dem prez in power following the neocon script to a tee, what would you call him if not a neocon? A Dem who is leading us into a world war so as to maintain our global hegemony, if that isn’t the actions of a neocon I don’t know what is.
Massive buildup? With what? We would need 31 trillion before we could even reach broke. The military is falling about 25% short of it’s recruiting goals. And About 75 percent of US 17- to 24-year-olds are ineligible for the military due to lack of education, obesity, physical problems or criminal problems.
Maybe instead of refighting the WWII eastern front alongside actual nazis, we should quit being A-holes and stop our world domination quest.
America has zero interest in Ukraine, and there would be no war there without a decade of us pushing for it.
This administration and our current military brass surrendered to sandal wearing goat herders. We could never defeat a committed modern military with this kind traitorous leadership. There is a reason why the U.S. hasn't definitively won a real conflict since the Second World War, we simply lack the commitment to take sustained losses. One 20,000 casualty month and we would quit and walk away. In addition, the Russian-speaking western boarder of Ukraine is not worth one drop of American blood nor one penny of American treasure. This isn't our fight no matter how badly the globalist neocons want it to make it so.
The ruble is trading at a 4yr high with oil up 100% in price since 2018-
while I pay eye shattering prices for everything-
whom are these sanctions hurting exactly?
There’s nothing conservative about starting a world war. The term neocon has come to mean those who wish to use America’s military aggressively in wars to preserve empire. Deep state hacks of either party can be a part of that club.
I personally think that Putin is a war criminal. But that doesn’t mean we should gear up and take him out. I’m okay with the United States cheering on Ukraine from the sidelines, and providing satellite intel if requested.
But that’s it. No billions of dollars for this and for that. And no WW 3 for the glory of our generals. The bottom line is that this is Europe’s problem. It’s just like WW 1. It’s really none of our business.
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—> Russia is getting it’s ass kicked by the fourth rate military of a fifth rate nation and it’s going to take on NATO?
The Western globohomopedo nations have pushed Russia, China, and Iran toward each other.
In WWIII, they may very well be allied forces, stretching NATO across the earth.
You wrote:
“NATO is discussing sending troops into western Ukraine. We already have people there.”
The Responsible Statecraft article by Kelley Beaucar Vlahos, dated Nov. 14, 2022, does not say that the U.S. already has people there - in “western Ukraine.” The article says:
“Of course, Washington has stopped short of putting U.S. boots on the ground in Ukraine . . . Polls continue to show that is not what the American people want.”
Any chance that you have a more recent source that puts U.S. boots on the ground inside the Ukraine? Thanks.
“Russian can hardly hold onto a proxy war with the West so why would it want to widen it?”
Ah, like the US and Afghanistan?
As long as the US keeps Russia egging on and has their fingers in it, it is quite possible to get out of hand. But I guess that’s what the US wants. Keep in mind that Ukraine in some form or another was aligned for 400 years with Russia, and Russia isn’t about to walk away from it.
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