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'They are just meat to Putin… and we are the meat grinder': Ukrainian soldier says 'conveyor belt' of Russian troops are being cut down as Battle of Bakhmut descends into 'First World war hell'
MAILONLINE ^ | 9 December 2022 | CHRIS PLEASANCE

Posted on 12/11/2022 9:49:31 AM PST by dennisw

Putin promised the Russian people that Donbas would be liberated. And the path to that goal - however fantastical - lies through Bakhmut. So the show must go on.

The battle is more symbolic than practical. Analysts agree the blood price that Russia has paid trying to take Bakhmut - thought to be more than 100 troops per day - is not worth the value of capturing it.

'They are just meat to Putin,' a commander named Kostyantyn told the FT on a visit to the front. 'And Bakhmut is a meat grinder. For what? A f****** metre of our land.'

Witnesses called it 'First World War' trench warfare, with Russian troops sent into a 'meat grinder' of Ukrainian machine gun nests under artillery barrage

The battle for Bakhmut has descended into a hell-scape reminiscent of the First World War as Putin throws troops into a fight described as 'a meat grinder'.

Russia is pounding Ukrainian trenches in the city - once home to 70,000 but now little more than a ruin - day and night with artillery before troops charge into front-on attacks against machine gun nests.

Now littered with shell holes, skeletons of trees shredded by shell-fire, and bodies of dead soldiers in eerie echoes of Passchendaele, Ypres or the Somme more than 100 years ago.

Leading the charge, for the last several months are Yevgeny Prigozhin's feared Wagner Group mercenaries.

Having triumphed in the battle for Mariupol earlier in the war alongside Ramzan Kadyrov's Chechen mercenaries, Prigozhin appears to have taken on the mission to Bakhmut as a way to raise his personal standing with Putin.

That effort, at least, appears to have been successful: Russia has officially acknowledged the existence of Wagner and allowed its leader to set up office in a swanky new skyscraper.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Its All Over Except ...

“You are clearly triggered and trying to deflect to making it about me, globohomo, etc, because the NYT, Ursula, leaked Ukrainian documents”

Now comes the psychological analysis from the mouth of a five year old. Buzz off.


41 posted on 12/11/2022 12:44:39 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

“You are full of crap as far as casualties”

Prove it wrong.

Show your evidences and sources rather than run Y O U R damn mouth!?

And be assured, I can prove your numbers so full of shat its not even remotely funny, but yeah, shat out them evidences and sources for why them numbers are wrong, peddler!


42 posted on 12/11/2022 12:45:13 PM PST by cranked
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To: dennisw

Combat footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsU74ubgHMQ


43 posted on 12/11/2022 12:46:53 PM PST by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: cranked; Its All Over Except ...

You are just meat to Putin.


44 posted on 12/11/2022 12:46:54 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw; All

It is incredible the way propo ops are taking situations involving Ukrainians and switching the story 180 degrees to swap identities of the perps. This article really describes what Ukraine is doing to its own troops.


45 posted on 12/11/2022 12:48:03 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Vision

Thanks. I looked at it.


46 posted on 12/11/2022 12:49:35 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

I know who the real ‘meat’ is propaganda peddler...they are Ukies and they dying at a rate of 500-1000 DAILY.

Send their wives, children, parents, etc. ‘Thank you for your service!’ cards, kkthx, idiot.


47 posted on 12/11/2022 12:50:10 PM PST by cranked
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To: silverleaf

Putin invaded, Russians are the perpetrators.


48 posted on 12/11/2022 12:50:30 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: cranked

The Russian deaths and casualties are three times more than Ukrainians. Maybe four.


49 posted on 12/11/2022 12:52:16 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

“Putin invaded”

No, the war started because a US puppet Banderist Nazi Regime decided to engage in ethnic cleansing on Russia’s border and Putin was asked to intervene on behalf of the four Donbass regions who had been under shelling and genocide since 2014!


50 posted on 12/11/2022 12:53:56 PM PST by cranked
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To: dennisw

Demented posting is a bad look. 😆


51 posted on 12/11/2022 12:55:06 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dennisw

Prove it again, propaganda peddler!

Y O U R mouth is running - where your evidences and sources!?

Here, start with these, from the BBC:

Russian casualties as of December 2: 9504
https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

Russian casualties as of November 18: 9001
https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

‘Hundreds of mobilized, officers and airborne forces: what is known about Russia’s losses in Ukraine during the nine months of the war’
https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-63755790

‘As of November 25, we were able to confirm information about 9311 dead soldiers and officers.’


52 posted on 12/11/2022 12:55:37 PM PST by cranked
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To: canuck_conservative

—> look, we get it that that you’re sexually insecure

… and yet it is you who brought up sex 🧐


53 posted on 12/11/2022 12:57:12 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: dennisw

Where
Are
Them
Sources
And
Evidences?

Waiting.


54 posted on 12/11/2022 12:57:12 PM PST by cranked
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To: Its All Over Except ...

These people are going to have serious issues to deal when this all collapses. Their world views will be shattered.


55 posted on 12/11/2022 1:01:03 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

pic #10

pic #16

and you do this all the time


56 posted on 12/11/2022 1:07:25 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

“As a result, the Ukrainian Army loses 500 to 800 killed and wounded soldiers in the “Bakhmut grinder”.

Alex Mercouris confirms these numbers from both Ukrainian and Russian sources, saying that the UAF is losing the equivalent of a battalion a day!”
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“So far, this shallow grifter has just thrown almost untrained, poorly equipped troops into the “grinder”. What’s a 100,000 (dead) compared to 50,000,000 (dollars).”

“Not Just Bakhmut Collapsing”
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/not-just-bakhmut-collapsing


57 posted on 12/11/2022 1:11:14 PM PST by cranked
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To: Salohcin
LOL!

The nickbot comes out to play!

58 posted on 12/11/2022 1:18:53 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: dennisw

Daily Mail is always good for a laugh!
likely you post such BS because Uke losses are bad there.
do you trolls get paid extra for weekends?


59 posted on 12/11/2022 1:19:30 PM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: canuck_conservative

Oh resident of Nazi Freeland Castro’s Canuckistan, Canuckistan is mentioned below. Hello?!

“Ukraine is no flourishing democracy. It is an impoverished, corrupt, one-party state with extensive censorship, where opposition newspapers and political parties have been shut down. Before the war, far right Ukrainian nationalist groups like the Azov Brigade were soundly condemned by the U.S. Congress. Kiev’s determined campaign against the Russian language is analogous to the Canadian government trying to ban French in Quebec. Ukrainian shells have killed hundreds of civilians in the Donbas and there are emerging reports of Ukrainian war crimes. The truly moral course of action would be to end this war with negotiations rather than prolong the suffering the Ukrainian people in a conflict they are unlikely to win without risking American lives.”

‘Lessons From the U.S. Civil War Show Why Ukraine Can’t Win’
https://www.newsweek.com/lessons-us-civil-war-show-why-ukraine-cant-win-opinion-1764992


60 posted on 12/11/2022 1:21:32 PM PST by cranked
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