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Ten Myths about US Aid to Ukraine
Hudson Institute ^ | Octrober 20, 2022 | Luke Coffey

Posted on 12/11/2022 7:27:44 AM PST by Widget Jr

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To: Widget Jr
Timber Rattler, I"m sorry the Putin Fan Club was not abusive enough toward you on this thread for me to fairly assign you the award. 😔

Oh well, maybe tomorrow, which is a new day!

Congrats on the award! Well deserved! ;)

61 posted on 12/11/2022 10:23:49 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Widget Jr
Yeah, their "alternative" pro-Kremlin sources are all garbage, and don't survive any real scrutiny here or anywhere else except in Russia.

Good catch!

62 posted on 12/11/2022 10:25:39 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

So believe whatever you want in whatever pro-Russian journals you read. I know that the reality of how much of that old Soviet-era equipment still actually works is very, very different.


There are also many photos of Russian army storing ammo haphazardly outdoors. Seemingly, the Russians don’t know what a pallet and forklift are, either.

The Russian army has been exposed as the Potemkin fake it is but I guess some Kremlin loving eyes will never see.


63 posted on 12/11/2022 10:32:26 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Widget Jr

Your source provides no links regarding the claimed refutation by Correctiv.

(Looking at several other of your source’s posts, it always states sources but doesn’t link them, which makes it difficult to check their work.)


64 posted on 12/11/2022 10:35:51 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Sounds like you hate America!


The self loathing is palpable. It’s quite sad to see broken and defeated conservatives shilling for the Kremlin. They’ve given up and wish our children to be ruled by the CCP and their allies in Death to America Iran and nazi Russia.


65 posted on 12/11/2022 10:36:38 AM PST by lodi90
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To: natalie227

Oh I agree with you...
I also think Europe should fight their own damn wars, and if we spend money, take care of Americans first..
I would rather see my money spent on Americans...


66 posted on 12/11/2022 10:41:10 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Widget Jr; All
"I am not a Constitutional scholar, so I can not respond on that basis."
Thanks for reply Widget Jr.

Respectfully, please consider the following Supreme Court clarification about who is qualified to comment about the Constitution.

“3. The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning; where the intention is clear, there is no room for construction and no excuse for interpolation or addition.” —United States v. Sprague, 1931.

Regarding Justice Joseph Story's comment about unconstitutional foreign aid, the reason that the Constitution has not be amended to allow foreign aid for friendly nations is that the federal government's constitutinally limited powers are wrongly ignored by corrupt, "follow the money" Congress and state lawmakers imo.


67 posted on 12/11/2022 10:43:32 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Robert DeLong
Boy, you really are an ignorant person.

And you're dishonest.

Of course the Biden Administration is the common factor, and if the debate was whether or not to vote Biden out of office, that would be relevant, and we'd all be in agreement.

But the question is whether it is support for Ukraine that is preventing us from securing the southern border, and it isn't. If support for Ukraine ended tomorrow, the Biden Administration still wouldn't secure the southern border, and you know it.

So like I said, you're just dishonest.

68 posted on 12/11/2022 11:31:31 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Widget Jr

Wikipedia…..you sure did pick the site that sets the standard for all others to be measured, didn’t you.

Isn’t Wikipedia the one that knows for people to modify the content?

Is it a bit slanted in its political leanings?

You and I are free to read what we want, believe what we want. But if you think McMaster and Barr, two men that actively subverted the administration they were working for at the direction and amusement of their globalist/UNIPARTY puppet masters, go on with your bad self.


69 posted on 12/11/2022 11:48:19 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Widget Jr

They left out that there’s not much point to having a Russian trade embargo if Germany is going to buy Russian oil.


70 posted on 12/11/2022 12:19:16 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The pro Russian sites who claim the interview exists have a responsibility to show it exists and link to it as well.

The sources claiming this interview happened and those words were spoken are not linking to it any Ukraine 24 sources (which one?) for it because it never happened and does not exist.

71 posted on 12/11/2022 12:41:59 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Russia's share of the world energy market is too big to cut it off entirely all at once. The goal is to cut down Russia's market share and reduce how much money Russia makes over time. These are long term changes that do not have immediate short term effects. Peter Zeihan and Joe Blogs have videos explain the macro and micro issues of the European energy situation and how the price cap works. Short term, everyone suffers. Long term over the next few years, everyone except Russia will adapt and recover, and the Russian economy is in real trouble.
72 posted on 12/11/2022 12:55:55 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: qaz123
"globalresearch.ca material not wanted on FR."

The wiki entry helped explain why that is.

73 posted on 12/11/2022 12:57:06 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Widget Jr
Russia's share of the world energy market is too big to cut it off entirely all at once.

We (NATO) are either at war or not at war. If Russia makes so much of the world oil supply that we have to throw money at them because we need them, we shouldn’t break their stuff, it is folly.
74 posted on 12/11/2022 1:11:46 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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75 posted on 12/11/2022 1:29:03 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: I want the USA back

“Ukraine is not a national interest of the USA.”

Nato is not spending money because of Ukraine, it is spending money because of Russia.


76 posted on 12/11/2022 2:21:24 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: lodi90

Don’t worry.
Those who support the Kremlin/Putin/Communism here on Free Republic aren’t American citizens. They are sleeper cell guys managd by the KGB.
Oops... I think they changed some cosmetics... its “FSB” now... They are pure Soviet fanatics like they have always been though.
Those Soviets have infiltrated America, and Free Republic.
The single only on good thing about the Neo-soviets in Russia and the communists in China is that they don’t glorify LGBT like a divinity like some do in the west.
But beyond that, everything they do is pro deep state, anti citizen, anti-life, destruction and hate. They will however never win over true conservatism!


77 posted on 12/11/2022 4:37:00 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: ansel12; I want the USA back

Indeed.
It cost America very little. The US weapons are sent to Ukraine via “lend and lease”. Most is not NOT given stuff !
The Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 is an act of the United States Congress that facilitates the supply of materiel to the Ukrainian government in a manner similar to the World War II Lend-Lease Act in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
This means that Ukraine will have to pay for those weapons for many years after the war.


78 posted on 12/11/2022 4:50:25 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: cranked

How are you my communist friend ?
Still cranked about Russia losing the war against Ukraine which is just protecting its land from Russian communist imperialists ? What a miscalculated invasion, what a fiasco for the mafia-leader in Moscow.
How does it feel? “Big” Russia unable to defeat tiny Ukraine. I Understand why the Kremlin boys are so frustrated - after all those losses.
Take back your troops, bring them back to Moscow. Then you just have to pay a trillion in war damages, excuse yourselves - after that a peace treaty can be signed.


79 posted on 12/11/2022 5:01:21 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Widget Jr

Thank you for pointing out the truth. Sadly, the China and Russia loyalists will fume, and those who think everything is about their orange false messiah will rant.


80 posted on 12/11/2022 11:59:50 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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